Canute Posted July 14, 2015 Share #1111 Posted July 14, 2015 Cripes, with that machine, you could turn out barrel staves and start your own coopering works (in 1/16 scale, maybe) Seriously, Mark, those parts look great. Were those drawn in CorelDraw or some other drafting program? I'm debating what program to pursue for drawing up parts. Piet, GLakie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 14, 2015 Share #1112 Posted July 14, 2015 nice work on the ship's parts Mark it's really going to make future projects much easier. Omega1234, GLakie, augie and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted July 14, 2015 Share #1113 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Well, it's never too early... Dear Santa, I've been a good boy....... Edited July 14, 2015 by lb0190 CaptainSteve, Jack12477, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #1114 Posted July 14, 2015 Thanks for all the likes and comments. Nice sharp cutting .. I couldn't do those parts on a scrollsaw either, at least not in those sizes ... fortunately I don't need to Those laseercutters are still quite expensive at this side of the pond ... same goes for the Byrnes machines ... sigh It seems to go the other way also, Carl. Proxxon is rather pricey including shipping, for example. Hopefully, these machines follow the tech trend.. prices go down and they get better. Mark, Don't forget the parts to make up the gratings, and a tool chest. Plus, if Buck's and Matt's work is any guide, you'll also be needing pieces for a compass, lantern and various barrels. Sorry Steve, no gratings. Too much sanding needed. I think I have better control on those things with the table saw. I've got a long list of fiddly bits to take the fiddly out of. Cripes, with that machine, you could turn out barrel staves and start your own coopering works (in 1/16 scale, maybe) Seriously, Mark, those parts look great. Were those drawn in CorelDraw or some other drafting program? I'm debating what program to pursue for drawing up parts. I'm using CorelDraw X6, Ken. One has to be careful on the machine as some won't work with the new versions of Corel and some won't work the older versions. I choose to buy this one outright from Amazon as the current (X7) was only available to me in the "subscription version". Sorry Corel.. I don't want to pay every month for something I might or might not be using. I'm cheap.. err... frugal.. Yeah..frugal. Well, it's never too early... Dear Santa, I've been a good boy....... Very impressive Mark. It should be very satisfying to get that level of results from what you were originally given to work with.Santa will probably give me a flashlight and magnifying glass. It's getting there Larry. I'm still on the learning curve. Feel free to use my excuse: "I'll get it now. I could be dead by Christmas." So far, that philosophy has worked. Canute, Omega1234, IgorSky and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted July 15, 2015 Share #1115 Posted July 15, 2015 I'm cheap.. err... frugal.. Yeah..frugal. Mark, You're Scottish ... ah no, you're Dutch ... Nope, definitely not ... You just use your common sense mate!!! Cheers mtaylor, Omega1234, Salty Sea Dog and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted July 15, 2015 Share #1116 Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark I feel with your new toy that you may make a killing taking orders for jobs? I'm sure there's plenty of international customers who'd be lining up to have parts cut. It might become a real little earner for you! I'll take my 20% cut, of course. Cheers Patrick Edited July 15, 2015 by Omega1234 Canute, mtaylor and GLakie 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted July 15, 2015 Share #1117 Posted July 15, 2015 Patrick, If I were Mark I would use it for meself and no one else ... lest I wouldn't have time to work on me own projects!!! Besides, all the hassle you've got to count those stacks of money The midnight oiling to get deliveries out and meet demand ... nope, not worth it after retirement Jack12477, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted July 15, 2015 Share #1118 Posted July 15, 2015 Patrick, If I were Mark I would use it for meself and no one else ... lest I wouldn't have time to work on me own projects!!! Besides, all the hassle you've got to count those stacks of money The midnight oiling to get deliveries out and meet demand ... nope, not worth it after retirement Hah, Carl. You're most probably very correct! Retirement is meant to be fun, for sure. All the best! Patrick mtaylor, cog, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share #1119 Posted July 15, 2015 Me...go commericial.... I retired specifically not to. Seriously, if you want laserwork done, contact Chuck or I think it's Rick who also does it. I've used Chuck's services and he does beautiful work. Canute, IgorSky, cog and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted July 15, 2015 Share #1120 Posted July 15, 2015 But mark we need you Lol retired from your old life just to slave away doing other people's stuff now sounds like the job I have now lol Your retirement could be as wonderful as my working life GLakie, Canute, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted July 16, 2015 Share #1121 Posted July 16, 2015 Wow Mark, those look great! I cant imagine ANYBODY being able to cut some of those parts on a scroll saw, the short grain would just turn to saw dust.Very impressive. Sam GLakie, Omega1234, augie and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share #1122 Posted July 18, 2015 Been a bit since that last update... I stripped off 5 strakes of planking at the stern and reworked it with some help in the form of advice and mentoring from Dan and Druxey. They set me straight and on the right path. I'll do a bit more sanding (still rough only for now) and then turn the hull around and to the other side. I did some templates and the shapes look pretty close so I think that side will go a bit quicker. I shouldn't have to plank, rip off the planks, sand and then replank several times... I have a dummy fashion piece held in with the blue pin to get the plank ends correct and I'll be fitting the real thing later. I'm not too worried about the plank ends being 100% squared up as there's a reasonably wide covering trim plank that will go over them. Besides, isn't it supposed to be deal with one headache at a time. I just noticed....my work area is beyond messy... sorry. Thanks for the comments, the help, and the support. Back to motoring on and making sawdust. avsjerome2003, cog, Elmer Cornish and 40 others 43 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted July 18, 2015 Share #1123 Posted July 18, 2015 Mark She looks complicated with some very difficult bends for the planking but with my trained and studious eyes she looks to be taking on a grand shape and will be a worthy build next to my kit make constellation Lol actually in real mans terms she looks great wouldn't want to take her on as a project till I've done a few hundred builds but looking great Haven't seen a side view in a while You should show one Canute, Piet, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted July 18, 2015 Share #1124 Posted July 18, 2015 That planking has a real nice, smooth roll to it now Mark! "By George, I think you've got it"! Cheers augie, Piet, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted July 18, 2015 Share #1125 Posted July 18, 2015 Looking great Mark. You got a really nice curve to the stern counter too - nice job! She's going to be a really curvy lady! JesseLee, mtaylor, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1126 Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark The redo on the stern planking looks great. To my eye, the sweep of the planks looks nice and natural. All the best! Patrick Edited July 19, 2015 by Omega1234 Piet, Salty Sea Dog, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1127 Posted July 19, 2015 Mark, your old planking was looking ok but your new planking is looking much better. The transoms and espacially the tansition to the counter timber is really tricky. I had there also a lot of problems during the build of my half model. Piet, GLakie, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1128 Posted July 19, 2015 Hi Mark, To my eye and very limited experience I would say you have it right now, I think its a vast improvement mate. Well done for having the bottle to take on the adjustment. Be Good mobbsie Omega1234, Piet, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1129 Posted July 19, 2015 Mark, Right decision; great tutors; and marvelous execution ... mtaylor, GLakie, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1130 Posted July 19, 2015 Mark, I think Carl summed it up perfectly. Good job! Canute, GLakie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1131 Posted July 19, 2015 I'm jumping on the bandwagon with Carl. mtaylor, GLakie, Salty Sea Dog and 2 others 5 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted July 19, 2015 Share #1132 Posted July 19, 2015 Ditto for me. That transition is outstanding! GLakie, mtaylor, JesseLee and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share #1133 Posted July 21, 2015 Thanks for the "like", the comments and looking.... Here's the current state... The wale (wide) planking is complete on the port side. Work is continuing on the starboard side. I've temporarily tacked in place the garboard strakes in order to measure the remaining area for the "normal" planking strips. I'm also sorting out how many battens I'll need... I'm thinking probably 3 of about 8-10 planks between battens.. At this point, I know I'm going to need drop planks and stealers since various monographs show them... I'm assuming this was the normal method for the French ships and not the monograph author's but haven't been able to verify it. Click on the image to enlarge and as always ideas for improvement are welcomed. Landlubber Mike, src, cabrapente and 37 others 40 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1134 Posted July 21, 2015 Lovely bit of planking so far Mark, looking forward to seeing further progress mate. I'm a bit confused as to why the black around the for'ard Gunports ends the way it does, is there a reason or am I just being stupid. Be Good mobbsie Omega1234, mtaylor, shipmodel and 1 other 4 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1135 Posted July 21, 2015 Lovely bit of planking so far Mark, looking forward to seeing further progress mate. I'm a bit confused as to why the black around the for'ard Gunports ends the way it does, is there a reason or am I just being stupid. Be Good mobbsie Could it have anything to do with storage of the anchor? Peter mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Slainte gu mhath L.H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1136 Posted July 21, 2015 If you lay our the planking belts and strakes carefully, you may be able to manage without drop strakes or stealers. Have fun! Omega1234, russ, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1137 Posted July 21, 2015 The port-side's looking great so far! Glad you've worked your way through the difficulties concerning the stern Mark, and can continue to move along with the rest of the planking. Canute, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1138 Posted July 21, 2015 That looks great Mark. I love the look of a framed hull. And the extra large pictures you post, I can really get in and see what your doing. Sam augie, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1139 Posted July 21, 2015 Lovely bit of planking so far Mark, looking forward to seeing further progress mate. I'm a bit confused as to why the black around the for'ard Gunports ends the way it does, is there a reason or am I just being stupid. Be Good mobbsie Mobbsie, Peter - Yes, the decorative way the wale is fashioned in French ships is related to anchor stowage. The French stiffened their longer, wider (compared to English designs) hulls by making their wales thicker and in several bands. Between the bands the hull planking was thinner, creating a step up to the wale. Where the anchor was hauled up for stowage the side point of the fluke could catch on it and rip up the wood. So at the bow the thinner middle planking was exchanged for thicker stuff that created a smooth surface for the fluke to slide on. Being French, where the thicker stuff ended, it was shaped in a stylish manner rather than just a functional end. Here are two photos of the element from the QAR project . Hope that helps Dan CaptainSteve, wyz, UpstateNY and 18 others 21 Quote Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 21, 2015 Share #1140 Posted July 21, 2015 Thanks for that clear and illustrated explanation, Dan. Never heard that. Bobstrake, mtaylor, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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