Jeronimo Posted January 21, 2017 #1 Posted January 21, 2017 Hello friends, according to the plans of Jean Boudriot, France Scale: 1/48 Species of wood: German Elsbeere Planning and keel-laying: December 2016 Dimensions of the model: Lenght: 1,10 m Width: 0,23 m Hight without mast: 0,24 m The pictures are the example: PES.ru Karl albergman, mtaylor, BlockPlane and 29 others 32 Quote
albert Posted January 21, 2017 #2 Posted January 21, 2017 Good start Karl. mtaylor and Jeronimo 2 Quote
Jeronimo Posted January 21, 2017 Author #3 Posted January 21, 2017 Hi friends. Construction of the new model " CHEBECE 1750 " Karl Part 1 WackoWolf, catopower, Landrotten Highlander and 37 others 40 Quote
Mirabell61 Posted January 21, 2017 #4 Posted January 21, 2017 Hi Karl, can full understand why you have chosen to build this model. The introducing pics are so fantastic and inspiring, wonderful lines of the ship and a "must" to get started with it..... Nils mtaylor, VACorsair, Jeronimo and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
Jeronimo Posted January 21, 2017 Author #5 Posted January 21, 2017 Hi Karl, can full understand why you have chosen to build this model. The introducing pics are so fantastic and inspiring, wonderful lines of the ship and a "must" to get started with it..... Nils Hi Nils, exactly like this model. I hope as well as the model. Thanks to all for the Likes. Karl Omega1234, Mirabell61 and mtaylor 3 Quote
AntonyUK Posted January 21, 2017 #6 Posted January 21, 2017 Hi Karl. Yet another wonderful build. I will be following this one with great interest as I have a set of the Ancre Chebec books. Wanted to do this one myself but as yet I do not have the skills. But maybe in the future. All the best with this one. Regards Antony. Omega1234, John Allen, WackoWolf and 3 others 6 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
druxey Posted January 21, 2017 #7 Posted January 21, 2017 Terrific start! Those are a lot of frames ahead.... WackoWolf, Omega1234, Jeronimo and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
skifflake Posted January 21, 2017 #8 Posted January 21, 2017 I will be watching from Canada. Thanks Karl. Pat mtaylor, Jeronimo, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote
Jeronimo Posted January 23, 2017 Author #9 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Hello friends. Manufacture and construction of the first frames of a total of eighty-five. Thickness 2x3 mm Karl Part 2 Edited February 3, 2017 by Jeronimo davec, Landrotten Highlander, EdT and 32 others 35 Quote
Amalio Posted January 23, 2017 #10 Posted January 23, 2017 Hi, Jeronimo. Is a pleasure for me to can see another work yours. Sorry. Omega1234, mtaylor and Jeronimo 3 Quote AMALIO
albert Posted January 23, 2017 #11 Posted January 23, 2017 Very nice work Karl. Omega1234, mtaylor and Jeronimo 3 Quote
druxey Posted January 23, 2017 #12 Posted January 23, 2017 And... you've started the marathon, Karl! Good luck and patience to complete all 85 frames for this model. Jeronimo, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
BANYAN Posted January 23, 2017 #13 Posted January 23, 2017 I look forward to this build Karl, your last was inspiring and this looks as it will be another! cheers Pat mtaylor, Omega1234 and Jeronimo 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
mtaylor Posted January 29, 2017 #14 Posted January 29, 2017 Beautiful frames, Karl. She'll be a beauty. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
tartane Posted February 3, 2017 #15 Posted February 3, 2017 Some years ago I built a chebec. Before I started with the project I made a long study of those beautiful ships. I used the drawings in the book;'" Die chebecke und andere schiffstypen des Mittelmeerraumes" written by Wolfram Mondfeld. I used the drawings in the book only as a basis and I soon discovered that I had to solve many mystery. The drawings which are available are often not correct. Practically every drawing is copied from the few things that are known and these were in some cases fantasy. One of the main things is the aft deck of the ship. It is Always depicted as one very large grating. Technically this is impossible on the real ship. The structure will be very weak and has to be supported by al lot of thick beams. Especially when you think that the openings in the gratings may not be larger than 7,5 x 7,5 cm, otherwise the sailors will break their legs. In the 19th century a few men measured the last remainig chebecs. One of them was Frederik Henrik Af Chapman. He published his drawings in "Architectura Navalis Mercatoria". Under the nrs17 and 18 in his book you can find the results. The deck I mean is totally different. Only a few gratings are drawn. In the sience museum in London exists a model built according his drawings. The hull is correct. Unfortunally Chapman never gave details about masts, rigging and sails. On the London model these things are not as it has to be. Generally spoken there are two types of chebecs. The first was used by the Barbarian raiders, and was directly derived from the galley. The second was the chebec which was derived from the first and was built by the French. You are building a second type. In London stands an example of the first type. I built the first type as you can see on my website www.constntwillem.nl There is a lot more to tell about this magnificent ship. I wrote down the results of my study. I can see that you live in Germany and maybe you can read my study which is in the Dutch language. If you are intersted I can sent you a copy. I am fully aware of the fact that I have not solved every mystery. I may be totally wrong on some aspects and I stand open for every comment. But I like to help everyone who is intending to built this ship, which is a beauty. Constant mtaylor, Archi, Jeronimo and 5 others 8 Quote
YankeeD Posted February 3, 2017 #16 Posted February 3, 2017 A very nice frame build indeed!! Interesting way to fix the frames also. Will follow this with interest. Rgds and god speed!! ps (The correct website in above post is http://www.constantwillems.nl/chebec.html) mtaylor and Jeronimo 2 Quote Current build 7 Provinciën (Englisch thread): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13719-the-7-provinci%C3%ABn-by-yankeed-scale-150-1665-according-to-drawings-by-mr-o-blom-first-wooden-scratch-ship-build/ For Dutch readers (Dutch thread): http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/nederlands-historisch-zeilschip-het-schip-van-de-ruyter-de-7-provinci%C3%ABn.216834/
EdT Posted February 3, 2017 #17 Posted February 3, 2017 Karl, Good to see you starting a new series. What is the model at the beginning? Surely you have not completed this since December. Ed Jeronimo and mtaylor 2 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory
cog Posted February 3, 2017 #18 Posted February 3, 2017 YankeeD, tartane, Perhaps you could verify your links before posting! Niether one of them works mtaylor and Jeronimo 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
tartane Posted February 3, 2017 #19 Posted February 3, 2017 Sorry I made a mistake in writing my website adress. This has to be www.constantwillems@freeler.nl I am not used to write in English, so I paid more attention in writing my tekst in a proper way rather then controlling my website adress. Constant Jeronimo, mtaylor and Mike Y 3 Quote
Jeronimo Posted February 3, 2017 Author #20 Posted February 3, 2017 Hello friends. Main frames. Karl Part 3 Model Mariner, Mike Y, mtaylor and 28 others 31 Quote
YankeeD Posted February 3, 2017 #21 Posted February 3, 2017 YankeeD, tartane, Perhaps you could verify your links before posting! Niether one of them works It surely works only I put the phrase between brackets, if you just click it it is most surely the computer adds the last bracket automatically. Computers are not that smart that they realize they should leave out the last bracket as it does not belong to the link. And correct I could have solved that by adding a space... Jeronimo and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build 7 Provinciën (Englisch thread): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13719-the-7-provinci%C3%ABn-by-yankeed-scale-150-1665-according-to-drawings-by-mr-o-blom-first-wooden-scratch-ship-build/ For Dutch readers (Dutch thread): http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/nederlands-historisch-zeilschip-het-schip-van-de-ruyter-de-7-provinci%C3%ABn.216834/
tartane Posted February 4, 2017 #22 Posted February 4, 2017 Hi Karl, Beautiful frames. Is it your intention to show the frames, in one way or another, after the whole project is completed? Constant mtaylor, WackoWolf and Jeronimo 3 Quote
AnobiumPunctatum Posted February 4, 2017 #23 Posted February 4, 2017 Very nice progress, Karl mtaylor, Jeronimo and BANYAN 3 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Jeronimo Posted February 4, 2017 Author #24 Posted February 4, 2017 Karl, Good to see you starting a new series. What is the model at the beginning? Surely you have not completed this since December. Ed The pictures at the beginning show a computer animations of a Russia artist. ( www. PES.ru ) Thanks to all for kind comments and likes. Karl mtaylor, WackoWolf and BANYAN 3 Quote
albert Posted February 4, 2017 #25 Posted February 4, 2017 Beautiful progress Karl. Jeronimo, WackoWolf, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
tartane Posted February 5, 2017 #26 Posted February 5, 2017 Hi Karl, Beautiful frames! Is it your intention to show these frames at the end of the project? How are you going to do that? Constant Jeronimo, mtaylor and WackoWolf 3 Quote
EdT Posted February 5, 2017 #27 Posted February 5, 2017 A lot of progress, Karl. Ed WackoWolf, mtaylor and Jeronimo 3 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory
Mike Y Posted February 5, 2017 #28 Posted February 5, 2017 The frames are soo thin! Eagerly waiting for the hull fairing part mtaylor and Jeronimo 2 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Amalio Posted February 6, 2017 #29 Posted February 6, 2017 A wonderful work. Jeronimo and mtaylor 2 Quote AMALIO
Jeronimo Posted February 6, 2017 Author #30 Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) Hello friends. Construction error on my part to the main frames IV ( 27 Bow ) to IX ( 69 Stern ) These frames have only one floor. These following picturs show the correction on the main frames. Karl Teil 4 Edited February 7, 2017 by Jeronimo tlevine, egen, alangr4 and 24 others 27 Quote
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