JeffT Posted December 31, 2019 #181 Posted December 31, 2019 The planking looks awesome. Thanks for the tip on the sanders. I think I'll look into them. Stuntflyer, Martin W and FrankWouts 3 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Chuck Posted December 31, 2019 #182 Posted December 31, 2019 That really looks good Mike. Cant wait to see it right side up and in person. That certainly sets the standard for the group. Its proof that slow and steady is the way to go. Did you have many planks that were discarded into the scrap box? I know I did and it is typical for such an outstanding planking job. Chuck FrankWouts, Martin W and Stuntflyer 3 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Hubac's Historian Posted December 31, 2019 #183 Posted December 31, 2019 Your work is just so clean and precise, Mike! Always a pleasure to see. Happy New Year!! Martin W, Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 3 We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Stuntflyer Posted January 1, 2020 Author #184 Posted January 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Chuck said: Did you have many planks that were discarded into the scrap box? I know I did and it is typical for such an outstanding planking job. Chuck Thank you! Yup, quite a few throwaways. Funny thing though, it always seems to go faster and better the second time around. Mike JpR62, dvm27, FrankWouts and 3 others 6 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Thistle17 Posted January 1, 2020 #185 Posted January 1, 2020 Superb execution Mike. You are another hard act to follow. And thanks for the tip on the sanding forms and paper. I am always fashioning up homemade ones that are barely adequate. Joe Stuntflyer, Martin W and FrankWouts 3
Rustyj Posted January 2, 2020 #186 Posted January 2, 2020 Excellent planking job Mike. Your workmanship is always an inspiration. FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Mldixon Posted February 20, 2020 #187 Posted February 20, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 1:54 PM, Stuntflyer said: Hello and a Happy New year to everyone! I've been making some progress on the hull planking. The last two belts on the starboard side minus one strake are done. As tempting as it was to add the last strake I knew that I would still need a clamping area to adhere to when I start again on the port side. Clamping against the keel doesn't work since the angle of the clamp would pull the plank up and away from the bulkhead. Moving the clamp down five strakes changes the angle of the clamp just enough to hold the plank tight against the bulkhead. I've added a few photos showing the planking detail both fore and aft. All of the sanding so far has been done with Soft Sanders. They are hard foam shapes that you wrap with adhesive backed sandpaper which is supplied by the company. The sandpaper lasts forever it seems. I am using 180 and 320 grit. http://www.softsanders.com/products/wood. I find that these two shapes work well. I cut them into 3" to 5" lengths. They conform to the hull shape allowing for a smooth transition when sanding. Mike I bought a set of these. Best sanding solution I've seen. Thanks for the link, you're work is inspiring . These different build threads are really useful in avoiding traps and scraps... billocrates, JpR62, FrankWouts and 1 other 4
Stuntflyer Posted February 21, 2020 Author #188 Posted February 21, 2020 It was seven months ago that I first started to plank the hull below the wales. I'm happy to say that it is now all done. The last few days were spent sanding out the hull planking. I find that I can see dips, rises and other types of fluctuations better when the lights are off and I just use the daylight coming through the window. Sounds crazy, but it really accentuates things better than my indoor lighting. I added the stern post as well. No finish has been applied though that will be done as soon as I re-paint any scuffed areas on the wales and cleanup the keel and knee with a light sanding. Mike RichardG, JpR62, dvm27 and 29 others 32 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Bill Brown Posted February 21, 2020 #189 Posted February 21, 2020 Beautiful Mike! Your planking work is some of the nicest I have ever seen Bill Stuntflyer, ccoyle, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5
CaptMorgan Posted February 21, 2020 #190 Posted February 21, 2020 Beautiful work Mike... Looks flawless... 😀 Great job.... Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 2 Till next time..... 😎 Steve Finished: Artesania Latina Constellation; Model Shipways USF Confederacy: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company Current Build: Syren's Winchelsea
BobG Posted February 21, 2020 #191 Posted February 21, 2020 Simply stunning work! Congratulations on a beautiful planking job. Bob Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 2 Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Rustyj Posted February 21, 2020 #192 Posted February 21, 2020 Wonderful job planking Mike. Well done. Hope to see it in person again some day. FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Tim Murphy Posted February 21, 2020 #193 Posted February 21, 2020 Mike, hope to see your model of Winchelsea at the Northeast conference. It should be there! Tim Murphy Rustyj, Stuntflyer, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4
Stuntflyer Posted February 21, 2020 Author #194 Posted February 21, 2020 Thank guys! As always your comments are greatly appreciated. Mike FrankWouts 1 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
ChrisLBren Posted February 21, 2020 #195 Posted February 21, 2020 Nice work Mike ! Now that it may be finally thawing here - I can start fairing my hull and hope my planking turns out nearly as good as yours... Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 2
Chuck Posted February 21, 2020 #196 Posted February 21, 2020 Mike ....all that time was so well spent. Your hull looks great. Taking your time always pays off in the end. Can you post a photo of the entire hull as well? Chuck FrankWouts, Stuntflyer and Ryland Craze 3 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Stuntflyer Posted February 21, 2020 Author #197 Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Here you go. . . Mike Edited February 21, 2020 by Stuntflyer gieb8688, rafine, FrankWouts and 23 others 26 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Beckmann Posted February 21, 2020 #198 Posted February 21, 2020 Mike, that is an increadable example of patience an accuracy. Your Winni will be an extraordinary model, once completed! Matthias FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2
JpR62 Posted February 21, 2020 #199 Posted February 21, 2020 Wonderful planking job ! Taking the time always pays ! A beauty ! FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2 Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Santa Maria boat 1492 - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Captain John Smith's shallop - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:32 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Syren Ship Model - 1:48
Stuntflyer Posted March 5, 2020 Author #200 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) I managed to get a coat of Wipe-on-Poly on the hull. I did not have the friezes, that are now available, when I originally planked the lower counter. After adding the transom template I placed the friezes to see how they would align with the upper and lower counters. The lower counter frieze didn't align well at all. There was just too much wood showing below the frieze. The fix was rather easy to do, however. I used the frieze to guide me in reshaping the upper plank on the lower counter. So, my suggestion is to use the provided friezes and check things out earlier rather than later. Here is the result and as you can see there was quite a bit of wood that had to be removed, about 3/32". Once that was done I added the upper counter planking. I added the outer window doubler to the inside of the transom template. This is a very, very tricky piece to make. I spent a lot of time finessing the angles for it to fit properly. You want the inside lip for the window to be very close to equal all around. Next, I added the 1/16" doublers to the inside of the upper counter. I then angled the upper counter planking, but not before first checking to make sure that the upper counter frieze was aligning properly with the angle. You can do this by drawing a line on the other side of the counter which mirrors the line on the inside. Mike Edited March 5, 2020 by Stuntflyer Jorge Diaz O, Tigersteve, bruce d and 21 others 24 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Rustyj Posted March 5, 2020 #201 Posted March 5, 2020 Great advice Mike. She's looking splendid! FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Chuck Posted March 5, 2020 #202 Posted March 5, 2020 Looking great Mike. Yes the friezes for the lower and upper counter are a great way to check the curves. They will also help you get a consistent width for the upper counter. In Mike's photo below....the space between the two friezes is where the 1/8" wide molding will go. So align the upper counter frieze with the bottom of the transom and that should leave 1/8" between the lower counter frieze. Perfect!!!! FrankWouts, Rustyj, KenW and 4 others 7 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
JeffT Posted March 5, 2020 #203 Posted March 5, 2020 Wow. Looks fantastic. FrankWouts, billocrates and Stuntflyer 3 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
scrubbyj427 Posted March 6, 2020 #204 Posted March 6, 2020 Hi Mike, I could be seeing things, but it appears to me that you planked your whales in one layer? Model is looking absolutely fantastic! JJ FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship
JpR62 Posted March 6, 2020 #205 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) I think Mike used two layers for the wales (see post #121 - page 5). It seems to me in 2 stages: first the upper 3 strakes then finally the last strake once the first strake below the wale was in (the strake which included the drop plank) - post #133 But Mike can confirm my answer. Edited March 6, 2020 by JpR62 Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 2 Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Santa Maria boat 1492 - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Captain John Smith's shallop - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:32 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Syren Ship Model - 1:48
Gahm Posted March 6, 2020 #206 Posted March 6, 2020 You do a wonderful job on this build, Mike! It is a pleasure to follow! Thomas Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 2 Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
Stuntflyer Posted March 6, 2020 Author #207 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) The wales are done in two layers., exactly as described in chapter two. Mike Edited March 6, 2020 by Stuntflyer FrankWouts and Jorge Diaz O 2 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Thistle17 Posted March 6, 2020 #208 Posted March 6, 2020 Thank you for sharing this latest tip Mike. You make the road ahead less difficult! Joe FrankWouts 1
Stuntflyer Posted March 9, 2020 Author #209 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Over the weekend I added the 1/64" x 3/16" boxwood strips to the top edge of the transom. This hides the seam created by the transom fillers and the transom template. The arrow shows the area where I filed away about 1/64" from the top edge of the transom before adding the strip. This helps to maintain the same profile after the strip was added. A while back I did a google search looking for a way to remove laser char and found that GOJO is a product that is often used. On larger wood pieces where the char layer is thicker, I found that a very light scraping or sanding before using the cleaner with a pipe brush gives a good result. With some trepidation, I tried using it on a gallery window for the Winnie. Using a soft tooth brush, I just kept massaging the wood gently for a few minutes. The windows was then rinsed in cold water and placed between layers of paper towel on a flat surface and weighted until dry. The result isn't perfect, but overall certainly better than before. I would imagine that those building with softer wood products like Yellow Cedar wouln't need to go though the process of removing char at all. Mike Edited March 9, 2020 by Stuntflyer Matt D, bruce d, GrandpaPhil and 19 others 21 1 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Tigersteve Posted March 10, 2020 #210 Posted March 10, 2020 Your model looks like a 3D rendering. Just excellent work! Steve bruce d and FrankWouts 2 Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
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