Schooner Germania (Nova) by KeithAug - FINISHED - Scale 1:36 - 1908 / 2011

[Jim Lad]

Now that looks really beautiful, Keith!

 

John

[mtaylor]

Spectacular, Keith.  

[Bedford]

5 hours ago, Jim Lad said:

Now that looks really beautiful, Keith!

 

John

I second the motion!

[KeithAug]

On 5/18/2019 at 8:44 PM, Keith Black said:

Did it pass your wife's and daughter's muster?

Keith - they both looked and seemed satisfied. I didn't like to press them in case they changed their minds.

[KeithAug]

John, Mark, Bedford - thank you all for your comments - much appreciated.

 

[Keith Black]

27 minutes ago, KeithAug said:

I didn't like to press them in case they changed their minds

Made me chuckle, priceless.

[paulsutcliffe]

Lovely work Keith, the hull looks awesome

 

[Chasseur]

Thing of beauty! Can’t wait to see you get on with the deck fittings/rigging etc.

[vossiewulf]

On 5/19/2019 at 12:48 PM, KeithAug said:

Keith - they both looked and seemed satisfied. I didn't like to press them in case they changed their minds.

I was going to say something typically smartass about being right, but then I realized I'd been married twice for 20 years total and remembered that no, I'm not right about much of anything. Including, I'm pretty sure, the direction in which gravity points and how many suns we have and other similarly controversial subjects.

[mtaylor]

Vossie has a valid point.   Very valid from where I sit.  I think he forgot though, that the sun revolves around the earth.  

[KORTES]

Such a long and thorough preparation has given the result of an amazing quality. Bravo.

My best regards.

[Omega1234]

Hi Keith

 

I’m just catching up ...again...  Oh-My-Lord!!!!  

 

Just spectacularly beautiful, Keith.  The work you’ve done on the hull is nothing short of gorgeous.

 

Keep the updates flying in.

 

Have a great weekend.  

 

Cheers. 

 

Patrick

[Kevin]

She looks fantastic

 

[KeithAug]

Thank you all for your comments they are much appreciated.

 

I continue to make very little progress. The weather has been generally good for almost a month and this means the garden drags me away from shipwright duties. I pray for rain and an enforced period of "shed" work.

 

Here is the little progress I have made in the week since my last post.

 

I am looking forward to getting the hull off the building frame - but first I need a cradle.

 

I decided where I wanted the support to be and used the frame sections at these positions to make a template for the "saddle".

The frames were cut from scrap 3/8" ply with the cutouts being 1/8 bigger all round. Notches were cut for the stringers and the stringers were notched to take the cutouts.

I had a piece of 3M extra deep door draft excluder with which I lined the hull cut outs.

I tested the fit and then glued the assembly together.

 

I then glued in all the previously made portholes. To make sure that they all sat at the same depth below the surface of the hull I turned a .02" deep step in the end of a dowel and used this to push them into place.

The rubbing strips need to be gold so I masked off the sides and ends of each strip.

I then hand painted the gold with Humbrol enamel.

I only needed to mask either side of the strip as over spray wasn't a problem---------------but the same couldn't be said for drips!!!!!!

Fortunately the drip on to the white was easily corrected.

 

The finished result looks fine.

I now have to decide how to do the decoration at each end of the rubbing strips.

The scale size of these features isn't terribly large the former will be about 2" long and the latter about 1". I'm not sure how I am going to do this but my current thoughts are to try making the latter from Fimo. The fineness of the swirls on the former make me think Fimo isn't a good option for this. All suggestions are welcome. 

 

[GrandpaPhil]

I like carving the scroll work.

 

On the other hand, sculpey works well too.

[bruce d]

1 hour ago, KeithAug said:

All suggestions are welcome.

Hello Keith,

Maybe you already know the magical material:

https://www.milliput.com/

My 'go-to' when I scratchbuilt figures and animals decades ago. (tip: buy direct from Milliput, that way it will be fresh)

 

HTH

Bruce

[vaddoc]

Indeed a spectacular hull. Looking forward to seeing the boat right side up greed from the jig. Very nice!

[Mark Pearse]

very nice indeed Keith, 

[Roger Pellett]

Photo Etch?

 

Roger

[wefalck]

That lady Doris here on the forum does wonders with a FIMO like material in terms of sculpting. The advantage over two-component epoxies is that you have an infinite open time until you take it to the baking oven.

[KeithAug]

4 hours ago, wefalck said:

That lady Doris here on the forum does wonders with a FIMO

Eberhard - yes, I am well aware of the skills of Doris. I think the best bet is to employ a Doris. 

 

16 hours ago, bruce d said:

Maybe you already know the magical material:

Bruce - its new to me - Thank you I will add it to my birthday list.

 

8 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

Photo Etch?

Roger - yes that's an option - not sure how it will cope with the thicknessI need - about .040"

16 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said:

I like carving the scroll work.

Phil - the craving would be a bit too fine for my level of skill.

 

Mark / Vaddock - thank you.

Edited May 28, 2019 by KeithAug

[druxey]

Is it possible to use fine wire as a support armature for modelling the Fimo/Sculpey on?

[Roger Pellett]

Keith,

 

In 1990, master modeler Rob Napier published a series of articles in the Nautical Research Journal detailing techniques that he used to build a highly detailed model of the sailing vessel Sooloo.  The model had quite a bit of scroll work like you are faced with.  If my memory is correct, he started with a flat photo etched part that he “built up” with solder, then filed to its half oval cross section.  A variation of druxey’s suggestion.

 

I believe that you will find a description of his process in either No’s 2 or 3 of Volume 35.

 

Roger

Edited May 29, 2019 by Roger Pellett

[wefalck]

I am soon going to experiment with this idea: I redrew the scroll-work in my graphics program on another layer over a photograph (that was corrected for the perspective distortion); this then will be laser-printed onto some clear decal sheet; on this basis I will build up the scroll-work using artists acrylic gel that will be coloured with some yellow acrylic paint in order to be better able to see the sculpting and as a basis for the gilding. I will not need this in the present case, but one could incorporate twisted wire or rope to represent such elements in the scroll-work. I will cut the 3D decal as close as possible to the scroll-work and apply it to the model.

 

The scroll-work is supposed to be gilded on a black hull. I am still not sure, whether I should do the gilding before transferring the decal, or whether I should transfer the scroll-work before painting the hull, spray-paint the hull, and then gild the scroll-work. The latter sequence may ensure a better adhesion of the scroll-work. I would not like the idea of sealing it with some acrylic varnish all over, as this would change the shine of the black hull paint in this area.

[Omega1234]

Hi Keith

 

The scroll work is going to be a challenge; but one that you’re more than capable of overcoming.

 

However, I still keep going back to the photos of your hull.  I think I feel like a young teenaged school boy who’s just seen his first ‘beautiful woman’.  Drop dead gorgeous and stunning.  That’s all I can say😊😊😊. 

 

Thanks!

 

Patrick

[KeithAug]

On 5/29/2019 at 4:27 AM, Roger Pellett said:

The model had quite a bit of scroll work like you are faced with.  If my memory is correct, he started with a flat photo etched part that he “built up” with solder

Roger - sounds interesting. I have not tried photo etch yet but may revert to this idea if other ideas fail me.

On 5/28/2019 at 1:45 PM, druxey said:

Is it possible to use fine wire as a support armature for modelling the Fimo/Sculpey on

Druxey. I was thinking of a variation on this - using wire to make the scrolls and adding the Fimo  to show some of the detail.

 

On 5/29/2019 at 8:41 AM, wefalck said:

I am soon going to experiment with this idea:

Eberhard - Yes, another interesting option. I will be very interested to see how it goes.

 

7 hours ago, Omega1234 said:

I think I feel like a young teenaged school boy who’s just seen his first ‘beautiful woman’.

Patrick - I cant remember that far back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I think the hull is much less interesting.

 

I am still finding that the weather is keeping me out of the workshop. Whatever happened to the traditional British summer gone?

 

Over course of a few hours I had a go at the decoration at the stern end of the rubbing strip. this was always going to be the easiest bit (despite my non existent Fimo skills).

 

After trying a bit of unsuccessful freehand modelling I realised that I needed to start off with identical starting points, I rolled a piece of Fimo to the desired thickness and cut 2 strips of equal width and length. I found a spare ceramic tile was a good surface to work on and this had the added advantage that I could put it in the oven to cure.

I pressed a longitudinal line into the Fimo and then created the leaf shapes by pressing in chevron lines with the end of a scriber.

After baking in the oven I gave the decoration a couple of coats of gold enamel.

At this stage I decided that the decoration was a bit too wide which made it look heavy when offered up to the hull. I therefore repeated the exercise using thinner strips of Fimo.

I think with more practice I can do better, but for a first attempt I was satisfied and therefore mounted the decoration on the hull by clamping it in place and then running a bead of CA glue around the edge.

I also started the experiment on the forward decoration, thus far without much success.

 

[Roger Pellett]

What you’ve done so far looks great!

 

Roger

[Mark Pearse]

a nice & delicate result Keith - & I really like the way the gold bridges the contrast between the mahogany & white

 

BTW, is it a pure white, or tinted?

[Omega1234]

Hi Keith

 

A masterful job on the scroll.  I sense there’s another skill that you can add to your resume!

 

Have a great week.  

 

Cheers. 

 

Patrick

[michael mott]

A masterful job indeed Keith. The hull really does look spectacular.

 

michael