augie Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share #571 Posted November 20, 2013 I would like to apologize to the members of MSW for my somewhat abrupt behavior over the last day or so. In addition, I apologize to Chuck for any difficulties this may have caused. He and I have been in contact, via PM and I hope at some point he sees fit to return to MSW administration. We are, in fact, of the same mind. This site exists for the purpose of model shipbuilding discussion while, at the same time, leaving room for a certain degree of so-called off topic comments essential to establishing personal relationships. Others may agree or not depending on their own outlook. But in my opinion we have long been tolerant of one another in order to have a vibrant, harmonious site. Somehow, lines were drawn and we became divided. This is not why we came here. I intend to return to 'active duty', welcoming any and all commentary to my logs with the proviso that we keep things somewhat more focused than in the past. I thank all those who intervened positively during this episode and hope that those who chose to leave will return to MSW. Richard50, Rustyj, SkerryAmp and 45 others 48 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted November 20, 2013 Share #572 Posted November 20, 2013 Well said Augie, amen to all that. B.E. egkb, riverboat, SkerryAmp and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmay Posted November 20, 2013 Share #573 Posted November 20, 2013 Thankyou for returning,to apologize shows your true character as a modeler and person,I sincerely hope Chuck will do likewise, Edwin riverboat, SkerryAmp, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 20, 2013 Share #574 Posted November 20, 2013 Very well said, Augie. I hope everyone will read this. riverboat, SkerryAmp, egkb and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted November 20, 2013 Share #575 Posted November 20, 2013 YESssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss mtaylor, DSiemens and SkerryAmp 3 Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 20, 2013 Share #576 Posted November 20, 2013 Augie, You are a gracious and honorable man. Thank you for your character and example. I am so very happy you are back :) With Great Admiration, Bill mtaylor, egkb, Script and 2 others 5 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 21, 2013 Share #577 Posted November 21, 2013 Augie, I am so glad to read that you are not leaving us. You are clearly a man of considerable honour and character and I respect you all the more for your post above. i look forward to the resumption of your log and the continuation of our friendship. egkb 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 21, 2013 Share #578 Posted November 21, 2013 I'm glad you decided to continue.......I respect your position and your experience as a modeler. if I in any way, added to your woe, I give my apology to you, and will moderate myself in the future. that is the best anyone can do to help the situation.......the rest is to just let it dissipate, and get back to what we enjoy the most. trippwj, Script, Richard50 and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard50 Posted November 21, 2013 Share #579 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Hi Augie, I've been away for a day, opened my e-mails this morning to find there has been a bit of trouble. What ever has happened, I'm glad to see you have returned, (from where) but I will as long as you are sending in your build log, continue to add the to the one I've already sent you. Thanks to you and everyone who helps us fairly new builders. Edited November 21, 2013 by Jimbob Quote Best wishes Jimbob (Richard) A friend is someone who knows the song in your heart and can sing it back to you when you have forgotten the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share #580 Posted November 21, 2013 Great hearing from everyone. For those of you wondering what Jimbob mentioned about my build log, several weeks ago he sent me a document wherein he is able to go through a build log and distill it down into a neat, concise package of photos and relevant comments. It's actually quite spectacular and reminds me of a professional magazine article on 'How to Build Model XXX'. He is obviously very talented, indeed, when it comes to these issues. I was hoping at the time he might submit a sample to MSW as a sort of trial balloon. But that, of course, is his decision. Perhaps an interested Moderator might get in contact with him. SkerryAmp, WackoWolf, Kevin and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted November 22, 2013 Share #581 Posted November 22, 2013 Well Augie, just want to echo the sentiment of you sticking around - very glad to hear it!! And that document maker you mentioned sounds like an awesome idea!!! augie 1 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted November 22, 2013 Share #582 Posted November 22, 2013 I like that idea...I ask Jimbob to perhaps contact Mark (mtaylor) with this information....I don't have enough computer knowledge to be able to make heads or tales of it, but Mark would understand. Now, back to building....I want to see some new updates!!!!! Script, DSiemens and augie 3 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 22, 2013 Share #583 Posted November 22, 2013 Great hearing from everyone. For those of you wondering what Jimbob mentioned about my build log, several weeks ago he sent me a document wherein he is able to go through a build log and distill it down into a neat, concise package of photos and relevant comments. It's actually quite spectacular and reminds me of a professional magazine article on 'How to Build Model XXX'. He is obviously very talented, indeed, when it comes to these issues. I was hoping at the time he might submit a sample to MSW as a sort of trial balloon. But that, of course, is his decision. Perhaps an interested Moderator might get in contact with him. it is some lovely work, i have a copy of my work now in this format, very professional Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted November 22, 2013 Share #584 Posted November 22, 2013 So, you send me a pm regarding your mishap....no excuse....I want to see pics of the tragedy as well, I think it will show others that even the most competent of builders have accidents...and this can be the perfect opportunity to show others how you overcome such adversity! This forum is not just for the beautiful and exquisite, but for the real world builders as well Sjors 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted November 22, 2013 Share #585 Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Ahoy Augie PIC's, PIC's, PIC's Friends don't hide things from friends, or was a driving thing, damn this old age Edited November 22, 2013 by JPett Shazmira 1 Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share #586 Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Nope. No photos of what a paint spill can do to your hull planking. Be back when all is in Bristol fashion. Edited November 22, 2013 by Augie mtaylor 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 22, 2013 Share #587 Posted November 22, 2013 OH NO! Hope you were able to recover from the accidental paint job! Good luck! augie 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 22, 2013 Share #588 Posted November 22, 2013 sorry to hear of the mishap.......I'm sure you will post when the problem is cleared up. augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 22, 2013 Share #589 Posted November 22, 2013 Augie, Robbyn's right. As painful as it must be, it will help other members to know what happens in real live builds. Perhaps some 'before' and 'after' photos once you have everything shipshape again together with a brief explanation of how you fixed it would be helpful. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambsbk Posted November 22, 2013 Share #590 Posted November 22, 2013 :( Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted November 22, 2013 Share #591 Posted November 22, 2013 Oh Damn! Sorry to hear of the mishap mate, I have had many while building the Confed, mainly on the stern area though. I'm sure you will get through it, I had to rip off hull planking more than once man, look forward to seeing more. Ben augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share #592 Posted November 22, 2013 Thanks everyone. I wasn't going to even mention it until Robbyn let the cat out. Had to remove 14-15 rows of planks to port, all notched for sweep and gun ports. Set to the task immediately so there was no time to think of photo documentation. Actually, it will be fine....just a lot of do-over. I'm getting really good at notches as the result. The new ones are ''Buenos Notches" (sorry, couldn't resist). lb0190, Trussben, Rustyj and 9 others 12 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted November 22, 2013 Share #593 Posted November 22, 2013 Hahaha, likely excuse my friend...I call chicken!!! Too bad though you didn't take pics, I know there is a topic in here somewhere about accidents and how to recover from them. I found solace there, after cutting my own ports in the wrong place , it was great to see even some of the absolute best modelers make some drastic mistakes. The best part of that topic...it shows how the best modelers recover from those mistakes. JPett, Script and lb0190 3 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 22, 2013 Share #594 Posted November 22, 2013 Good on you, Augie, for the repair and the pun. Pity about the lack of pictures, but sometimes... hmm... maybe the forgetting was "intentional"??? augie and Script 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted November 22, 2013 Share #595 Posted November 22, 2013 Sick em Shaz augie 1 Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 22, 2013 Share #596 Posted November 22, 2013 Augie, Very sorry to hear of the mishap, but even more sorry that we won't get the whole photo-essay on how to recover from a major mishap. As others have said, that would have been both beneficial and heartening for the less experienced. I look forward to seeing the completed repair job anyway. DSiemens, augie and JPett 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share #597 Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) For those who might be interested, the latest update of this log, professionally assembled, is now available from Richard (Jimbob). If you would like to see a copy, email him at email removed by moderator to prevent spamming. He can truly work some magic putting these together. Edited November 24, 2013 by Anja if you want to share telephone numbers or email addresses, please send a personal message. Non-members can read this as well. mtaylor 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted November 24, 2013 Share #598 Posted November 24, 2013 Ouch! I've always had a hard time taking pictures when things go wrong ( as they do to all of us). I have no doubt that you will correct the problem and we can all enjoy the "after" photos. All the best. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCraig Posted November 24, 2013 Share #599 Posted November 24, 2013 Augie...Sorry to hear about your unintentional paint job. I look forward to the build resuming. Good to know even the best have their off days. It makes everyone look human! I'm sure the Confed will still be a prize ship when she is completed! augie 1 Quote -Craig It's never too late to turn the tide... Current Build- King of the Mississippi- Artesania Latina- 1:80 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share #600 Posted November 24, 2013 Whoops, my bad on posting that address. No problem. You can contact Jimbob right through MSW and he can then email you privately. Just go to his profile and send him a message. I've spoken with him and he'll field your inquiries that way. Sorry Richard.......and ANJA! Shazmira, Anja and mtaylor 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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