HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale

[jereremy]

Beautiful work!

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Fifty- four

This post follows on from Post 152 having a close relationship to anchors.

 

One of the reasons I made up the anchors is that I have also been thinking about anchor linings and billboards.

These do not feature with the kit and do not tend to appear on contemporary plans.

Many contemporary models show them, as on Amazon above. 

They were an important feature on ships of the period to protect the hull from the anchor flukes.

Chuck’s Winnie

My go to reference, here you can see the lining running over the wale.

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I added billboards to my Sphinx build as above.

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Having an anchor made up is useful in that the arc made by the anchor as it is swung horizontal from the cathead for securing, determines the position of the lining and billboards.

 

In considering Bolsters and Billboards for Indy I am hamstrung by the absence of specific sizes of timber to use. With Sphinx it was relatively easy having the TFFM book to refer to.

I know where these fittings were placed so it is basically down to what looks good to my eye.

 

I firstly made the Bolsters using some Boxwood square stock of 2.75mm. This was topped by some 3.5 x 0.7mm  boxwood strip.

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The length of the bolster worked out at 26mm. 

Notches were cut out of the back side to fit over the first two preventer plates of the Fore channels and a slight curve was induced to match the curve of the bow.

The bolster was fixed to the Black strake only with pins.

 

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With the bolsters  in place the Billboards can be made. For this I use some 1mm Boxwood scrap inscribed with 3mm wide boards which reflect the topsides planking.

 

The Linings

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These cover the main wale in the case of Indy and scribe an arc at the fore end that follows that of the anchor swing.

I settled on using some 0.6mm Pearwood scrap which suits my eye.

 

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In fixing the linings  I have used double sided tape. This gives me the option of easy removal if I decide I don’t like them, and the jury is still out on that.

 

Altho’ I’m not fitting the anchors I don’t think it will be an easy fit to get the bowers to look right.

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If the bill is to rest on the Fore channel there is little room between the deadeyes.

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A possible fixing with the arm atop the fore end of the channel secured with shank painters around the timberheads.

 

I will be interested to see how others tackle the anchor rigging.🤔

 

 

B.E.

07/03/2024

[Moonbug]

Nicely done.  I agree that these are a really nice (and visible) touch and are often overlooked. 

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you Bug, glad to see work has restarted on your Pegasus.👍

 

Post One Hundred and Fifty- five

 

I continued to fit the Port side billboards and linings.

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I think I have made a better job of the Port side, so off came the starboard side for a re-fit.

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Starboard side re-done, happier now.

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I have also taken the opportunity to replace the bow port lid and add double lifting lanyards.

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Small sections of telephone wire sleeving are used to represent  the port lanyard tubes, but they did need drilling through to take the 0.30mm line which was stiffened with ca for the purpose.

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Another small job is to add the rudder chains. I used some Caldercraft Brass chain, 18 links /per inch.

I will get around to trimming them at some point.

 

B.E.

08/03/2024

 

 

[yvesvidal]

On 3/7/2024 at 4:45 AM, Blue Ensign said:

I will be interested to see how others tackle the anchor rigging.🤔

BE, I love your approach. This is something I have been struggling with, on my Bellona, since CAF Model does not provide much info. The Anatomy of the Ship has a little bit more details, but these anchors are so massive, they are really delicate to place on the bow, in a realistic way.

 

Yves

[Blue Ensign]

Thankyou Yves, the drawings in the AoTS Bellona provide a good guide, and the given anchor dimensions for a Seventy-four are taken from Steele.

If your anchors match the scale the arrangement looks ok to my eye, at least on paper.

 

'Indy' is more problematic, ideally the anchor arm should  fit between the first and second deadeyes, to bring it as close to the hull as possible, but there is no room. This accords with the Adm plan.

The aft bower is easier as it will fit as per the Bellona drawing.

 

Victory had a  different arrangement.

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Here, Billboards and linings are dispensed with and the anchor fluke sits  in a heavy shoe.

How they manipulated that 81cwt  lump of iron into position without marring that pristine paintwork I can only wonder at.🤔

These of course are replicas.

 

B.E.

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Fifty- six

 

Bits and pieces 

From this point on the comforting crutch of the glossy manual has ended.

There are many small fittings to add and in this session I will mainly be referring to Plans 5 and 9.

 

Working from in to out there is brass wire(0.8mmø) to be inserted thro the faces of the skid beams across the waist (plan5)- shown as belay pins on (Plan 9).

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The arrangement seems to have been taken from that of the Victory where one rigging source indicates that the triple aft three relate to the belay of the Staysail sheets and those on the second from forward beam for the Main Topmast Stunsail downhauls.

 

Fortunately for me this has no practical application.

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The inner guide rope stanchions (PE59) are fitted along the waist gangboards followed by a wooden rail (2X1mm Pear) atop the inner hammock crane arms, the fit into the brass etched crutches is perfect.

 

I have diverted from the plan by adding iron stanchions between the timberheads around the Fo’csle.

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Not provided in the kit I used spare items from the Sphinx kit- a slightly shorter stanchion.

It seemed reasonable to me that given the low height of the rails, stanchions would have been fitted.

 

The kit provides etched versions of the belay pins, they are a mere 8mm in length, and barely 0.8mm in width, but still have a visible shape, and I think they look quite good at the scale.

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Blackened to give them some tooth and painted a bare wood colour I added a few to the pin rails for effect.

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There are quite a few eyebolts to add along the channels together with the iron work for the Main studding booms.

 

I dare say I will find other little additions as I continue to re-check the plans but for now I am moving onto dressing the stump masts.

 

B.E.

10/03/2024

[chris watton]

7 minutes ago, Blue Ensign said:

The arrangement seems to have been taken from that of the Victory where one rigging source indicates that the triple aft three relate to the belay of the Staysail sheets and those on the second from forward beam for the Main Topmast Stunsail downhauls.

 

Fortunately for me this has no practical application.

Actually, no. I used the AotS Diana for those, coupled with James Lees The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War 1625-1860. No Victory references were used at all for Indy.

[Blue Ensign]

Ah, but where did they get them from😉

B.E.

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Fifty- seven

 

Mast Making.

Starting with the Mainmast:-

For the reduced height masts I firstly need to work out the relative positions of the wooldings, iron bands, and the point where the side cheeks and front fish terminate.

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I replaced the Pear laser cut cheeks and fish with Boxwood versions to better match the Ramin masts.

 

The iron bands need to be fitted before the cheeks are put into place. With a 12mm ø mast my go to use of heat shrink tubing will not work, so it’s back to thin strips of black card.

 

Once the cheeks are fitted the remaining iron bands need to be applied, they sit beneath the Front fish. I work the bands so that the join will also be beneath the Fish.

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The Fish is then fitted

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The saddle for the Driver Boom was also replaced with a Boxwood version.

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The woolding remains to be done, but I am out of the correct line sizes.

 

B.E.

12/03/2024

 

[Theodosius]

This is so impressive!

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Fifty- eight.

 

Building the 32’ Pinnace (Part One)

This is the one boat example that I may include on the skids of my Indy.

I think the Pinnace is the nicest looking boat type and my go to for display on a ship.

 

I have built an example of every boat type in the Vanguard range, and my detailed logs are elsewhere on MSW, most recently on my Sphinx log.

 

My approach in building the Pinnace will be as previously recorded, so I’ll include less detail with this log. 

There are a few areas of approach to building these bijou boats that may be of use to others.

 

Setting up the frames.

These are delicate parts and I like to protect the framing, and I add support pieces to protect the bow and stern.

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These slotted strips protect the very delicate stem by avoiding the risk of flex when fitting the first strakes.

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At the stern the transom is secured square.

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This is a weak part and support boards are added to reduce any risk of flex during fairing or attaching the planking strakes.

 

The planking strips are nominally 2mm x 0.8mm and as I found with the Sphinx Pinnace, they have very little excess in length to accommodate edge bending which applies very near the bow end.

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Both lateral and edge bending and also a degree of taper is required to maintain the flow of planking. These features were applied once the first plank had been installed.

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The first four planks fit into the stem rabbet, followed by the addition of the Garboard plank. For the Garboard I used a wider 3mm strip.

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Planking continues to completion.

The final spiled plank that sits below the round of the hull is traced onto Tamiya tape and cut out of the 0.8mm Pear fret.

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Three days’ work and the planking is completed, albeit still in a rough state.

This will be cleaned up before moving onto the next stage.

 

B.E.

16/03/2024

[allanyed]

Your Indy continues to be an inspiration!    

If you have not already seen them you may find the plans of 28 foot and 32 foot pinnaces from RMG helpful as well. ZAZ7175 (low res) on the RMG Collections site and ZAZ173 (High res with list of scantlings on the Wiki Commons site.)    The RMG plans are a little later than Indy so it might be have changed but ZAZ7175 shows every thwart has one thole set, alternating from port to starboard rather than  two sets of tholes on every other thwart as it was single banked. 

Allan

Edited March 16 by allanyed

[Blue Ensign]

Thanks for the links Allan, I agree the convention for Pinnaces was for a single banked set-up with the thole pins off-set port and starboard.

There is 1:48 scale drawing of a 32’ Pinnace in the AotS book Diana which also shows a bench board running down the centre between the thwarts.

 

This feature also shows on the Adm drawings.

 

I will look to at least modifying the thole pin set-up on the kit Pinnace.

 

B.E.

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Fifty- nine.

 

Building the 32’ Pinnace (Part Two)

Freed from its building frame and the centres removed the process of fitting out can begin.

 

I have always been amazed that twisting away the mdf centres leaves the hull intact with little trace of their removal….

But not this time; - the planking partly disassembled, requiring careful re-fitting and use of diluted pva on the inside to stabilise the hull.

How this will impact on the build remains to be seen, but it may be necessary to paint the inner bulwarks.

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I made a Styrene foam cradle to support the hull whilst attempting to clean up the inside.

I used a combination of micro chisels, pen sander, and sheets to remove the glue adhesions and rough surfaces.

This is quite a fraught operation and needed careful handling.

 

I take notice of where areas will be covered by the footwaling, fore deck, benches and thwarts, and make pragmatic decisions how far to take the cleaning up in these areas, against risk of further damage.

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I wasn’t too keen on the set-up at the stern, so I installed a stern post.

I dislike the brass etched rudder facings, supplied with these kits, convenient as they may be. The wooden rudder core was faced with 0.6mm pear and then sanded down to shape.

 

The hanging arrangement will be modified to reflect the true set-up.

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Unlike my previous experience of Vanguard boats the Pinnace has Pearwood gratings and footwaling which I like. More convenient and natural looking than the brass etched versions which require painting and sticking with ca.

 

At this stage there are a few additions one can make to the boats to add realism.

Lifting ringbolts to the footwaling, and mast steps as shown in the above photo.

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I divert from the kit when it comes to fitting the thwart supports, I leave them extended to the stern to support the sternsheet benches.

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The benches are provided as a unit including the aftermost thwart.

 

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I prefer to cut this away, modify the benches and add the thwart as a separate item.

I have added a panel below the aft seat which will double up as a compartment.

 

When it comes to the cox’n seat there is a slight issue; a grating is provided, but it sits far too high to be a practical  platform for the Cox’n ‘s feet.

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It is prevented going lower by a ledge forming part of the keel set-up. Careful paring away of this incumbrance allows the grating to sit at a more realistic level.

A minor point maybe but the detail devil in me wouldn’t let it go.

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The bow platform comes as a pre-cut item which wasn’t a good fit on my build no doubt because of my failings. Fortunately, there is plenty of fret to re-make these items.

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Still very much w-i-p and a lot yet to do.

 

 

B.E.

21/03/2024

 

[allanyed]

That is a really fine looking boat.  I realize it may not be all that important and it is a kit convention but I do wonder why there is no keelson on which the mast steps would sit rather than on the footwaling.  For the late 18th century/early 19th century for a 32 foot pinnace the keelson would be about 11 inches broad by 1 1/4" thick according to the scantlings given in The Boats of Men of War by May where as the footwaling would be closer to 3/4" thick and not as broad.   Early 18th century keelson for a 32 foot pinnace was about 8"X1.5" and the footwaling 4"X1"  (The Boats of Men of War, page 53.)   Whichever the case, there is quite a difference between the keelson and footwaling breadth and thickness.    There are some cross sections of boats at RMG where this can be seen.  One example follows.

Allan

 

Edited March 21 by allanyed

[Blue Ensign]

As you say Allan it is a kit limitation;  the keelson, such as it is, sits below the footwaling.  Modification would entail messing with the provided part - a step too far given that little of it will be seen once the thwarts are in place.

 

B.E.

 

[allanyed]

48 minutes ago, Blue Ensign said:

a step too far given that little of it will be seen once the thwarts are in place.

 

Hi B.E.

Understood🙂.  Hopefully this would be an easy fix for them.  The below is the Bounty launch replica and the keelson is pretty visible, but I doubt the majority of viewers of your model would notice this feature.  

Great model, great build log, thanks again for sharing.

Allan

[Mirabell61]

Super working B.E.

The pinnace looks great.

How did the removal of the plug frames work out ?, you replaced the prior frames with the stripe frames

 

Nils

Edited March 21 by Mirabell61

[Blue Ensign]

Thanks Nils,

I've built six of these boats without any  problems when removing the frames, but with this one the planking separated in sections, no doubt due to deficiencies in my gluing.

 

All sorted now.

 

B.E.

 

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Sixty. 

 

Building the 32’ Pinnace (Part Three) 

Getting the correct thwart levels and height is a critical part of assembly.

It is important to get the thwarts all square across the boat.

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When fitting the thwarts it is advisable not to exert even light pressure on the centres of the thwarts, particularly those with the mast holes in them. 

 

The final tricky part is fitting the gunwales.

These delicate parts are pre-cut and include the thole pin fittings.

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I decided to fit the gunwales as provided, complete with thole pin fittings for eight double banked rowing stations.

 

I know all the arguments about Pinnaces being single banked to accord with historical custom and practice, and that boats of 32’ were 10 oared, and even that traditionally Pinnaces had a centre board running between the thwarts.

 

There are more than a few difficulties involved in making a diversion from the kit to reflect the above, and as with the smaller Pinnace on Sphinx, after long consideration I decided that leaving well alone was the best course.

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No matter, it is a very fine boat to display with Indy.

Chris has put a lot of thought into the design of these boats, and the fine detail is the best around at this scale.

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The wale is next fitted and does require a degree of edge bending to conform to the line as it rounds the bow.

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The lower hull has been painted in Ivory to provide a contrast with the ‘bright’ timbers up to the wale.

 

Painting these small boats requires careful masking but the tyranny of the macro w-i-p photos required several goes to improve the lines to a point I found acceptable.

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Vallejo blue/grey is used to decorate the top strake and transom, and w-o-p is applied to the bare wood.

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The rudder is fitted with the modified quick release arrangement common on these boats.

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Making these small boats provides hours of fun and frustration in equal measure. They are absorbing little projects that I enjoy doing despite the frustrations at times.

 

Just the finishing touches to add now.

 

B.E.

25/03/2024

 

[Beef Wellington]

Been a long time since I've commented, but very much enjoyed catching up on your excellent work on this wonderful build.  Love the colours you've chosen on the pinnace which are a pleasant change and gives a very period feel.  I've just ordered this little kit myself from Chris, so hoping mine turns out half as well as yours.  Great stuff!

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you Jason,  enjoy your Pinnace, it's a great little kit.

 

Post One Hundred and Sixty-one.

 

Building the 32’ Pinnace (Part four)

At this point I couldn’t resist the urge to see how the Pinnace would look onboard ‘Indy’.

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Temporarily placed in the suggested position on the skid beams.

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The kit provides a set of oars in laser cut Pear.

These benefit from a little fettlin’ beyond char removal.

The blades should be thinned down toward the outer end, and the shank rounded a little at the bottom third leaving the upper two thirds square to represent the loom.

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I think a spot of woolding is up next.

 

B.E.

26/03/2024

 

[Kevin]

She looks fantastic

[Moonbug]

   Lovely, lovely work BE.

 

     I only see one - rather significant - problem.   You are inciting within me the desire for another of Chris' great looking kits - and my Admiral will surely disapprove as we just started shelling out for our 3rd daughter through University. 

[Rustyj]

Wonderful workmanship B.E.

[Blue Ensign]

Thankyou Kevin, Bug, and Rusty, your words are much appreciated.

 

@ Bug - That Chris Watton has a lot to answer for, I dread seeing the next irresistible model to emerge from The Forest of Dean, I’m already struggling to find a suitable space for ‘Indy’

 

Cheers,

 

B.E.

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Sixty-two.

 

Woolding the masts

The kit indicates use of 0.5mmø line throughout.

According to Steel the wooldings for the Fore and Mainmasts are of 3” circ line, and that for the Mizen 2½” circ. 

This equates to 0.37mm and 0.31mm scale diameters.

 

I used 0.3mm and 0.4mm cotton line from Modellbau Takelgarn in Germany.

 

Wooldings are generally 12” deep which scales to 4.76mm.

The method of applying as shown on the kit plans is the recognised approach to take, and will be familiar to readers of R.C. Anderson’s wordy but excellent book The Rigging of Ships in the days of the Spritsail Topmast 1600-1720

 

I wouldn’t be without it.

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The line was dyed using Colron Jacobean Dark Oak wood dye which gives a less black effect than commercial black rigging line.

 

The final touch is adding the wooden hoops that contain the woolding.

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These are simply made using very thin strips cut from a Manilla folder.

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Nearly there! and with great timing the  the display case arrived yesterday.

 

B.E.

 

28/03/2024.

 

[Blue Ensign]

Post One Hundred and Sixty-three.

 

Countdown to completion - the final stages. 

This is the stage where I attend to all those little outstanding things, look through all the laser sheets and ask myself what the hell is that for, should I have fitted it?

 

It is surprising how long it takes to rig the stanchion and Hammock crane lines.

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I use Syren 0.45mm ø natural line. I seem to recall from somewhere that tarred line was dispensed with as it tended to mark the hammocks.

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I decided to fit the Fo’csle with stanchions; I think they may well have been fitted, and it balances well with the rest of the model. 

I used additional eyebolts to secure the ends of the lines.

 

I had modified the gunport lanyards for the lower ports to a double arrangement on the Port side, but the starboard side remained to be done.

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Even tho’ it is a bit of a pain to do, I couldn’t leave odd sides.

 

Boomkins.

These less than attractive booms used to spread the Fore tack invariably cause me trouble. In my build they didn’t easily meet the angle of the cap square that secures them as they cross the Main Rail of the head, and the line was also inhibited by the position of the seats of ease which required a little adjustment.

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I also added the capsquares, represented by black card strips.

 

B.E.

01/04/2024

[Rustyj]

Wonderful!