mtaylor Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share #151 Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) Thanks for dropping by and the kind words Aldo, Juergen, and Mobbsie. I've been working on the gundeck capstan. I'm on hold for the foredeck capstan as it's smaller and I wanted to see how the big one went first. Taken several tries but that part of learning. Mostly, I had issues with the power tools.. the mills specifically in setting things up. Somewhere around here are probably 10 to 15 bits of things that went flying off before I figured how how to get everything clamped down perfectly.. Live and learn. I also had to do some research. The plans and most of the builds I've seen for French ships show the capstan style from the late 1600's to the mid-1700's. I finally located several pics of some ship models for the mid-late-1700's. First picture is of the parts (but not the whelps). This was the fun part.. using the rotary table. Had a bit of problem figuing out how to secure things to it. Took a couple of runs to various hardware stores for some M6 screws and nuts but I got it sorted out. Below are the parts set up for rounding off and starting the machining. The spindle has been machined down. As for the chunk on the left, I ended up using a tapered wood screw to center the wood square pieces and secured with washer and nuts. I didn't get a picture of that. After machining in the pawl slots on the bottom and the bar slots on the head, I assembled everything (but not glued) for a size check. Twas a bit too high. After re-sizing the height, I finished the shaping of the head and then reset the height again.... it was still to high. It's been taken apart, re-machined for height and reglued. Right now the whelps blanks are drying in position and I'll spin it on the lathe to shape them. Probably tomorrow. I hope. Side note.. I have an old coffee cup that is kept about 1/4 full of alcohol. Simple matter to drop the whole assembly in and in a bit, it comes apart. Wipe off the softened glue and the parts are as good as new. Save a lot of re-making parts when some part of the assembly need re-work or replacement. Edited June 7, 2013 by mtaylor Corrected mis-type jaerschen, freewheelinguy, popash42 and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted June 7, 2013 Share #152 Posted June 7, 2013 Very nice work Mark! Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share #153 Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Mike. Ok.. I lied.. not intentionally... I couldn't wait to shape the whelps. It has a few rough spots to be cleaned up, but I'm pretty darn happy with it. popash42, hamilton, janos and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 7, 2013 Share #154 Posted June 7, 2013 nice capstan Mark...well worth the effort! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted June 7, 2013 Share #155 Posted June 7, 2013 finally located several pics of some from the mid-late-1700's... Funny I didn't think they had photography that far.... back I could be wrong of course... have been many times before Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share #156 Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Popeye. Michael, Oops... I meant pics of models...Sometimes my fingers out type my brain. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #157 Posted June 7, 2013 Mark, Every time I see your work, I want to throw my kits away and start scratchbuilding. But then, there's the guilt factor Nice job on the capstan! I understand not wanting to wait to work on it more. Thanks, Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 7, 2013 Share #158 Posted June 7, 2013 Nice capstan, Mark! Just watch that you don't take a sip of that neat alcohol instead of your coffee! John augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share #159 Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Harvey. Don't toss the kits... just bash them. Thanks John. You don't have to worry. It's back in the bottle now that I'm done ripping the capstan apart. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 7, 2013 Share #160 Posted June 7, 2013 Hi Mark, That looks great! I need also two of those, can I place an order with you? mtaylor 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted June 7, 2013 Share #161 Posted June 7, 2013 Wonderful work Mark. I'm smiling with your success. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 7, 2013 Share #162 Posted June 7, 2013 Nice job Mark. Of course the re-dos were really just an excuse to play with the power tools some more!!! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted June 7, 2013 Share #163 Posted June 7, 2013 Very nice work. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 7, 2013 Share #164 Posted June 7, 2013 Beautiful work on the capstan, Mark. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted June 7, 2013 Share #165 Posted June 7, 2013 Terrific and inspring work Mark!! (Unlike others, when I see a full scratch built I get ascared and retreat to the safety of my kit and practicums ) -Adam Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted June 7, 2013 Share #166 Posted June 7, 2013 Very nice work on those, Mark. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j21896 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #167 Posted June 7, 2013 Well done Mark! Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share #168 Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks for the nice comments everyone. I'm at a point of comtemplating the next step.... more furniture? I have the fireplaces to do. Or finish the planking in the Great Cabin? Or maybe...? I'm thinking I'll finish the Great Cabin before the fireplaces. In looking back, I can see errors and areas that could be better overall but when I did them, my skills just weren't there. But as someone has said, it's the next ship that will be better. Hmm... I just realized that I'm putting off the exterior planking.. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted June 7, 2013 Share #169 Posted June 7, 2013 Isn't it great to have so many choices ? Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #170 Posted June 8, 2013 Okay Mark. I'll bash those kits-but not with a hammer Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 8, 2013 Share #171 Posted June 8, 2013 it might be wise to do the hull planking before more structures are added. then it can be taken out of the jig........although making the structures now is a good ideas as well......it well protected. just keep them removable for now, if you choose a different route. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted June 8, 2013 Share #172 Posted June 8, 2013 Great work Mark, I'm looking forward to more. Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #173 Posted June 8, 2013 Thanks everyone. It is I who needs to thank everyone for not only the inspiration but the encouragement to push my limits and become a better modeler. I'm not there yet, but my confidence level is building. Decisions, decisions... Popeye, The pumps and capstan are loose right now as at some point there's artillery to be built, fitted, and installed. Fat fingers and small parts in the way aren't a good mix. Harvey, Your Conny is practically a scratchbuild.. capnharv2 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 8, 2013 Share #174 Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the nice comments everyone. I can see errors and areas that could be better overall but when I did them, my skills just weren't there. But as someone has said, it's the next ship that will be better. Hmm... I just realized that I'm putting off the exterior planking.. lol you will say that on your next build as well, - just that the bits you are not happy with then - will be better than the bits you are happy with on here - thats life - i quess Edited June 8, 2013 by Kevin mtaylor 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted June 8, 2013 Share #175 Posted June 8, 2013 Nice work on the capstan Mark, bang on for scale with the figure. Cheers, B.E. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share #176 Posted June 8, 2013 Thanks B.E. and Kevin. Kevin, You're right.. but then, I think it goes with being modelshipbuilder. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted June 8, 2013 Share #177 Posted June 8, 2013 Hi Mark.... just catching up on your progress, your work is really out standing, and I enjoyed the video, was interesting. Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Biles Posted June 8, 2013 Share #178 Posted June 8, 2013 Mark, I have just been reading through your build, and love what I have seen, except for the fingers, sorry. I was wondering what glue you were dissolving with the alcohol on the capstan. That could be useful information to me. I have been away from my build for the last couple of weeks (my wife's health issues). I hope I can remember what I was working on when I get back home in another week or so. Keep up the good work (CAREFULLY)! Walter Biles Quote Current: America Schooner https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10887-america-schooner-pof-by-walter-biles-radio-pof-scale-148-from-blue-jacket-plan/ Prior: MERIDEA https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/140-meridea-by-walter-biles-radio-34-scratch-cad-of-boat-at-usn-severn-river-repair-station-ca-1969/ SAMSON First build: Scratch POF Spanish Galleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #179 Posted June 9, 2013 Thanks Frank. I posted elsewhere about the videos on this particular ship.. Or you just go to Youtube and search by the name. Interesting stuff. Thanks Walter. I'm using PVA.. Elmer's Wood Glue, specifically. If you need to dissolve CA, use acetone but do follow all precautions. That is some nasty stuff. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 9, 2013 Share #180 Posted June 9, 2013 Nice job on the CAPSTAIN Mark.........! Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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