Licorne 1755 by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - French Frigate - from Hahn plans - Version 2.0 - TERMINATED

[augie]

Just love the lay of the lines.  Made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.  What's an inch or 2 between friends!

[druxey]

An additional hint: once I have a strake of planking laid, I run a sanding stick along the edge of it to ensure it is even and lines up with my mark-out before proceeding with the next strake.

[mtaylor]

Thanks again for the "likes" and comments.

 

I never thought of doing the whole strake, Druxey.  I've doing that at the joints only.   Thanks for the tip.

[mtaylor]

You're right, Robin...  I'll amend that from now on so "abuse is always welcome".  

[michael mott]

Checking in again, great to see the progress on the planking, I would imagine that on the full size ships of the period that a 3 inch variation would have been part of the plus or minus tolerance during the planking up from the keel and would have been corrected over a few planks as Druxey suggested on the model planking.

 

Michael

[popeye the sailor]

nice to see an update on her Mark.........very nice work!

[JohnE]

Beautiful, Mark. Nice to see that the buttock lift worked out so well. Can't wait to see her all planked out. She has beautiful lines, doesn't she?

 

John

[mtaylor]

Thanks for feedback, comments, and likes.   Garboard strake on both sides is in and I'm lining things off and sorting out the planking strategy.  Right now, life keeps getting in the way. 

[SawdustDave]

You've got her planking well beyond the critical stage at this point Mark. Just a matter of keeping tight fitting back to the garboard.

Smooth sailing from here. She really looks great.

Edited September 8, 2015 by SawdustDave

[SkerryAmp]

I still cannot wrap my head around the skill necessary to do what you are doing.  Such an incredible looking piece of work and such work going into the incredible looking piece.

 

Just amazing man, just simply amazing....

[wyz]

Atta way Mark, it looks like all the toil of reworking areas on this model as has paid off.  The planking/spiling is coming along nicely.

 

Tom

Edited September 22, 2015 by wyzwyk

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the likes and comments.   Short update time.

 

I've laid 12 stakes of the 8" wide planks...  15 to go.   Looks rough but I'm seeing light so what appears to be gaps is just mismatch in thickness and shadows... I hope.

 

From the re-lining off I just finished a strake ago, I won't need a stealer at the stern.  Looking at the French ship monographs I have, a short, wide plank can be added such that the strake is continuous.  I've added one and probably won't need any more. From the dead flat, the strakes run from 8" to almost 4" and then back to 8" at the sternpost. 

 

On the bow side, the planks run from 8" at the dead flat and then eventually taper to 4".  However, at least one drop plank is needed which will be put in in my next two strakes.  I'm trying hard to keep scale on this even though it looks strange due to the scale (to my eye at least). 

 

First two pics show her in all her unsanded, rough looking planking.

 

The third pic is my side project, the longboat.  I needed a way to do this so thought, fiddled, thought, and then came up with a plan I think will work.  I'm using a variation of Chuck's method.  I did have to re-do this once already as for scale, the frames should be 2" (1/32") wide, but I kept breaking them and then realized there wasn't enough meat to hold the planks securely. So, I doubled the width of the frame.  We'll see where this leads.... hopefully not the scrap bin.

 

All in all, I'm pretty pleased.  There's some things I need to think about for the next ship, like is scale planking better or worse than eye-appeal cause these planks are relatively tiny compared to the planks I've used in the past.

 

Enough over-thinking for now... pressing on.

 

[Jparsley]

Wow mark I love the lines I'm thinking the planking looks great at scale Difficult to do but very attractive Can I have it when your done lol She's looking great

[GLakie]

It doesn't look like you have much more to go with the planking Mark.   Nice work! 

Edited September 23, 2015 by GLakie

[augie]

Very nice symmetry as seen from the stern view.  Going to look great after sanding/finishing.  Will the hull be a natural finish ?

[popeye the sailor]

coming along very good Mark........you almost there! 

[CaptainSteve]

Coming along beautifully, Mark !!

 

(By the way, that's a fantastic idea pre-marking the frames for your planking.)

[Omega1234]

Hi Mark

 

Really nice work on both hulls! The long boat is a surprise because I hadn't recalled you mentioning that you'd started it before, but nonetheless, it'll be a welcomed side project to Licorne.

 

I also must echo what everyone else has said about the planking of Licorne's hull - terrific job, that's for sure!

 

All the best

 

Patrick

[Piet]

Very nice planking there Mark.  After sanding it'll be a jewel.

 

Cheers,

[mtaylor]

Thank you for the comments and likes.   It is shall we say, interesting, doing a French ship when all you've ever looked into was the American and English vessels. 

 

 

CaptainSteve, on 23 Sept 2015 - 4:36 PM, said:

Coming along beautifully, Mark !!

 

(By the way, that's a fantastic idea pre-marking the frames for your planking.)

 

Steve,

I picked that up from here on MSW and also from a couple of books.  Keeps one honest in the planking. 

 

 

Omega1234, on 23 Sept 2015 - 5:53 PM, said:

Hi Mark

Really nice work on both hulls! The long boat is a surprise because I hadn't recalled you mentioning that you'd started it before, but nonetheless, it'll be a welcomed side project to Licorne.

I also must echo what everyone else has said about the planking of Licorne's hull - terrific job, that's for sure!

All the best

Patrick

 

Hi Patrick,

I mentioned way back here;  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5339-licorne-by-mtaylor-pof-316-french-frigate-hahn-version-20/?p=331918 when I started cutting parts for the longboat.  I started one early on using a plug while waiting for the wood for the framing but that bit is in the fireplace. It just wasn't working for me.  I made some basic mistakes in the plug... 

[Omega1234]

Thanks Mark, Definitely getting old!!!!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[mtaylor]

Omega1234, on 23 Sept 2015 - 8:59 PM, said:

Thanks Mark, Definitely getting old!!!!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

 

I am too.  I had to do a search and see if I had mentioned it.

[BANYAN]

Very sharp Mark!  the symmetry is spot on.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[src]

Looking great Mark,

Sam

[cog]

The planking looks marvelous, looking forward to see the sanded version ... I see you've been toasting wood again ... that long boat looks like a real challenge ... you could have tried Johann's (Archjolo) method if you wanted more meat ...

[JohnE]

Good to see her getting some clothes on . Watching, listening, learning. Like Carl, I'm waiting for the sanded version. Top stuff.

 

John

[Trussben]

Nice to see your planking well under way Mark, I can't wait to get in the workshop, but I have to build one first, damn.

 

Ben

[riverboat]

Nice!! looking planking Mark......... it's getting there!!

 

frank

[mtaylor]

Minor update for the ship... a big one for me.

 

Planking continues.  No pics yet.  But while waiting for glue to try, etc. I've been busy working on carvings... or trying to anyway.  Also made minor progress on the longboat and a few drawings for parts needing to be cut out.

 

So.. the carvings.  The picture shows the first one I've attempted..  well actually it was the 4th attempt and hopefully, I can live with it.  The first two carvings I'll need are the name cartouche on the stern and Arms of France above the stern windows.  Mulling it over, I went for the "easy one".    I soaked them in isopropyl for about 12 hours and that removed most of the char.

 

I ended up doing bas-relief style on it after several failures of trying to carve the letters such that they stand proud.  Not going to happen in my lifetime. So I ended up removing the char as I carved out about 1/2mm deep leaving the lip and lettering (as one area not the individual letters) standing proud.  A touch of well-thinned brown paint (used a needle for this) and what I wanted highlighted is now about as good as it will get.  It actually looks better in real-life as most of us don't have eyes with macro mode.  

 

Onwards...... 

 

[Omega1234]

Very nicely done, Mark! I can't carve for the life of me, so I tip my hat off to you!

 

What you've done is a perfect example of 'if at first you don't succeed, then keep trying and it'll turn out really nicely".

 

Cheers

 

Patrick