mtaylor Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #1651 Posted March 25, 2016 Thank you for the "likes" and the comments. Well.. to paraphrase Clement Moore... "The rudder was hung on the sternpost with care in hopes that I won't pull out my hair". Yeah.. bad verse.. Oh well. This part took some sorting out on exactly how to hang it properly rather than sort of cobbled like I did the kit models... Thank heavens for the Optivisor as the holes for the bolts were pretty tiny. I've half a mind to build the next one at 1:48 or 1:36 even just so I can see without eyestrain. Like the Admiralty would be receptive to that. Next up will be the rudder coat (hopefully), the strop, and the chains. Thanks to seeing Giampero's rudder coat, he gave me some ideas on how the Licorne's should look. Anyway, pictures..... uss frolick, popeye the sailor, src and 40 others 43 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1652 Posted March 25, 2016 Hi Mark Well done, Mark. She hangs absolutely straight and proper! Nice. Cheers Patrick mtaylor, Piet, Elijah and 5 others 8 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1653 Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Mark, Looks like fiddly work to me, quite nice ... is it an optical illusion due to the angle of of the ship in the photo, or is the angle from that left (Ishould say top) bottom strip smaller towards the top ... Cheers Edited March 25, 2016 by cog Omega1234, Piet, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #1654 Posted March 25, 2016 Mark, Looks like fiddly work to me, quite nice ... is it an optical illusion due to the angle of of the ship in the photo, or is the angle from that left (Ishould say top) bottom strip smaller towards the top ... Cheers Not an illusion, Carl. It's off a tad.... I think I found the "wall side".... It looks better on the other side. Canute, GLakie, CaptainSteve and 8 others 11 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1655 Posted March 25, 2016 Mark, When it's right side up, you will hardly notice my friend ... besides it's a lot easier on this side, giving comments ... I couldn't match your prowes!!! Cheers mtaylor, Elijah, CaptainSteve and 6 others 9 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1656 Posted March 25, 2016 Just lovely work Mark. The whole stern has come together beautifully. Cheers, Nigel. Canute, Piet, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1657 Posted March 25, 2016 Well hung Mark............er, the rudder that is.................. JesseLee, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 7 others 10 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1658 Posted March 25, 2016 wonderful that the rudder is finally where it should be super job my friend! as a side note......your running out of reasons why she should be upside down a suitable stand would be the ticket by now.....unless your going for the pedestals. Piet, Elijah, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1659 Posted March 25, 2016 Piet, Elijah, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1660 Posted March 25, 2016 Well done Mark, fiddly indeed. i am envious, you only have one wall side, i have five!! Sam mtaylor, GLakie, Piet and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1661 Posted March 25, 2016 Nice, Mark Elijah, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1662 Posted March 25, 2016 Looks like you did a fine job on the rudder Mark! Jack12477, Piet, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1663 Posted March 25, 2016 Super job on the rudder Mark! Jesse Canute, Piet, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted March 25, 2016 Share #1664 Posted March 25, 2016 What shall I say about the rudder......... Netjes gedaan !!!!! ( very nice job , translation for all the members who not can read Dutch ) Sjors src, Canute, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #1665 Posted March 25, 2016 Thanks for the likes and the comments... I've done 3 rudder coats so far and no joy. I'm not sure if it's me and fat fingers, the scale, or the material. But I will persevere on this endeavor for a bit longer. I'm going to try a different material. Mark, When it's right side up, you will hardly notice my friend ... besides it's a lot easier on this side, giving comments ... I couldn't match your prowes!!! Cheers I suspect you're right about when it's right side up, Carl. I like the logic anyway. wonderful that the rudder is finally where it should be super job my friend! as a side note......your running out of reasons why she should be upside down a suitable stand would be the ticket by now.....unless your going for the pedestals. Reasons or excuses? I have the plans ready for a build cradle. I've been staring at the inside and what needs to be done to the outside... I may just bite the bullet in the near future. I do like the solid feeling of the build board. Sort of like hiding out in a blanket fort. Well done Mark, fiddly indeed. i am envious, you only have one wall side, i have five!! Sam The build is still young Sam. I could easily end up with 5 also. Canute, Gerhardvienna, robin b and 8 others 11 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted March 26, 2016 Share #1666 Posted March 26, 2016 Hi Mark Well done, Mark. She hangs absolutely straight and proper! Nice. Cheers Patrick Are you being a bit rude Patrick? Lol Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted March 26, 2016 Share #1667 Posted March 26, 2016 Well hung Mark............er, the rudder that is.................. Another one Grant! lol Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted March 26, 2016 Share #1668 Posted March 26, 2016 G'day Mark A job well done! It looks so fiddly and the end result is a piece of "art". Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted March 26, 2016 Share #1669 Posted March 26, 2016 Are you being a bit rude Patrick? Lol Greg Who me? Can't be. I had a Christian upbringing...I swear!!! cog, Elijah, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted March 26, 2016 Share #1670 Posted March 26, 2016 Mark, I was able to get some chamoise leather (very very thin) from a modelling shop here in Aussie - this might do a reasonable job but I think there were canvas? For my Endeavour I used some calico (well washed; put it on, wet it with a very diluted PVA/water solution, shaped and let it dry. Not perfect but... cheers Pat CaptainSteve, GLakie, WackoWolf and 6 others 9 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share #1671 Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks Pat. I'm aiming for a canvas look. I'm waiting for the color to dry on the latest bit of silkspan and then I'll fit and take a hard look. Even though this is under the counter, I still want it looking "right" and nice. cog, CaptainSteve, Omega1234 and 8 others 11 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 27, 2016 Share #1672 Posted March 27, 2016 I used a piece of the sail material I got with the Gothenborg. they don't give you enough to do them IMO........it looks and feels like canvas, especially if you give it a lacquer coat. Canute, Piet, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share #1673 Posted March 27, 2016 Thanks for the likes, comments, and suggestions including those via PM. After many attempts and much aggravation, I'm giving up on the rudder coat. I've learned a few lessons on this and presumably the time spent counts towards the 10,000 hours that Druxey mentions. I've tried silkspan, paper, cloth, even foil. I considered sculpy clay and may still try that but for now... I'll move on. It boils down to at this moment, there's not enough room to work. I went too far on the stern build out and rudder installation. The lessons.. 1) Think not just 100 steps but a 1000. When I planked the counter, I put on Wipe-on-Poly.... errr.. no. Should have waited. (Not thinking far enough ahead). Possibly I needed to sort the rudder coat at this time but definitely before fitting the rudder into place. 2) When I buildt the rudder, the pins on the rudder irons should have been a bit longer and tapered before soldering up the irons. (Lack of knowledge.. need deeper research early on). 3) By tapering the pins and opening up the recesses in the rudder, the rudder could be removed and re-installed easily. (Doooh... moment). Anyway, for now, I'll take a pass, not worry about it but continue to think. If I get an "ah-ha" moment, I'll add it later. Meantime, I'm adding the strop and the chains. CaptainSteve, cog, popeye the sailor and 13 others 16 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted March 27, 2016 Share #1674 Posted March 27, 2016 Hi Mark, you're doing a fine, fine job, love the glazing effect in the stern lights. B.E. Piet, Omega1234, Elijah and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus and Terror Posted March 27, 2016 Share #1675 Posted March 27, 2016 Just catching up on your progress over the last few weeks. Spectacular! mtaylor, Omega1234, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Building Terror Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted March 27, 2016 Share #1676 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Build and learn in the extreme hey Mark I hope you're logging these 'lessons learned' - sadly i didn't and will probably repeat a few (another lesson learned ). I am sure you will find a solution to your collar issue when you least expect it. I am also recalling a muuch rum befuddled memory from MSW 1 (I think) where someone used the inner foil from cigarette packets for this task also??? cheers Pat Edited March 27, 2016 by BANYAN Omega1234, Piet, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 27, 2016 Share #1677 Posted March 27, 2016 I formed mine using a like size dowel. I do believe I cemented the hull edge in place and folded it inward after it was dry. when the rudder was set in place, it gave the appearance that it was connected to the rudder. good idea to occupy yourself with something else.........it will give you more time to think of a solution. you'll come up with something......I'm sure of it Elijah, Canute, Piet and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 28, 2016 Share #1678 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Mark, Re the rudder coat (thought it was an apron, but that proved wrong) ... couldn't you make a sleeve which at one end is inverted - to make a rounded bottom - and push that down the top of the rudder trough the 'hole' (keep on forgetting those names, darn foreign nautical terminology) ... I would use something like musseline or rice paper (the type used for shoji - Japanese sliding doors e.g.) .. Cheers Edited March 29, 2016 by cog mtaylor, Jack12477, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share #1679 Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks for the likes, the comments, and the ideas. Carl, I think you might be onto something. I never thought about coming in from the top. I'll take another look this week and see. Pat, I seem to recall that build also... too many years ago,.. <sigh> Oh yes, I'm logging the lessons. Here's the rudder in it's not quite or maybe it is, final form. (Rudder coat notwithstanding). I've added the strop and the chains. Now that's back in it's jig, I'm going to attend to several things... the rudder coat install from the top, the carvings <takes a deep breath>, the quarter galleries, and a bit if finishing up the sanding on the inside of the hull. And the pictures. I'm pretty happy with it even with some issues that the macro brings up.. Captain Poison, oneslim, BANYAN and 51 others 54 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 28, 2016 Share #1680 Posted March 28, 2016 lovely work, lol you were on the windows last time I looked, just where is my time going to, I had to giggle when you were talking about the rudder pins and needing a bigger scale next time,and the same discussion would be brought up on some detail that we hadnt even thought of Canute, Omega1234, Elijah and 7 others 10 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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