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A few simple sketches to show the details.

 

A and B.   Bow sprit cap fitting on the tenon

 

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C.    A flat base added on top of the bow sprit.  One can simply plane down the top of the dowel, but the added base makes a more secure attachment for the bees.

 

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D.    The "bees" are added to each side.

 

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E.    Finally, cheek blocks are added to each side, which receive the fore topmast stay and preventer.  Slots cut in the base for access to the cheek blocks.

 

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Completed bow sprit. Top view

 

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Side view

 

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Close up

 

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A few more photos follow to put it in perspective.

 

 

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Completing the bowsprit.  The jib boom passes through the round hole in the cap.  The flying jib boom base is beveled to fit the forward face of the cap.

 

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The flying jib boom is supported by the jib boom.

 

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Much later, netting was added. (Details of the netting are shown on page 3)

 

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The bow sprit cap seen on the real ship.

 

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And on the model.

 

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I hope this makes sense of the original photographs.

 

Cheers, Gil

 

 

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Hi Gil,

 

Welcome back as well. Your Victory is so awesome. 

 

MIchael

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Great work you are doing on this ship :)

I am also working on a Victory.

I do have one question: Do you made the ship wheel and binnacle by yourselv 

or was it some parts from a set?

I don´t have them on my set, and still looking for some drawing in order to make them.

Will appreciate your help if you can :)

 

Best regards

Philippe

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Michael and Lawrence, Thanks for your visit and kind comments.  My apologies to all our friends whose logs I haven't yet visited.  We're still settling in and time at the table is somewhat limited.

 

Philippe, The fascia or veneer of the binnacle was part of the JoTika kit as were the wheels. The compasses were added for effect, as were the deck braces and ring door handles.  I'm not sure other photos would be helpful. What kit are you working with? 

 

From the real ship, the wheel with the angle iron deck support and binnacle with compasses, ring door handles, etc.

 

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And from the model, the binnacle and wheel.  The wheels assembled on a dowel, angle support iron added (not in the kit).  Building the binnacle, fascia supplied, compasses added, and a dusty binnacle.

 

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Hope this helps.  Gil

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Adding more details.

 

Making the Davits

 

Styrene used for foot steps.

 

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Holes shaped by the drill to simulate line passing over a sheeve.

 

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Guys and jackstay added.

 

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Davit attached to hull.

 

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Line weighted to create curve in jackstay. (Fast C/A between clamps, Clamps moved and second application of C/A)

 

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Forward hinge at hull

 

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Topping lift

 

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Tackle for cutter

 

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Aft block and hook

 

Haven't built the boats yet, but I'll have to study Grant's lovely cutters, pinnace, etc.  Cheers, Gil

 

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Topping lift

 

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Lines left to right, guy, topping lift and jackstay

 

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Termination of topping lift from block on mizzen mast through block on deck ring

 

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Beautiful work, Gil.  The first two pictures of the davits installed had me believing they were of the real thing.  Then... the clamps and workarea put it all in perspective.  :)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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another mini project finished, another step closer to completion, wonderful

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS.
KEEP IT REAL!

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HMHS Britannic by Kevin 

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Finished     

St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020

HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished   Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 

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Really first rate.  I love the styrene foot steps.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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Wonderful updates !

 

Love it, Daniel

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Kevin and Augie, Many thanks to you both.

Mark and John, if any part of the model begins to look like the real thing, I'll be delighted.

Thanks Daniel. I promise not to mount the anchors until I have thoroughly perused your postings. So many ideas and useful tips.

And when I start on the boats Grant, your log should save me from false starts and problems in construction.  Although I'm rather intimidated by your results, I'll try to come close.  Gil

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Hello Gil...

I haven't had a chance to welcome you back since i've had several life (and death) incidents the past few weeks.  All is well and back to normal now.  I am in the middle of constructing the ship's boats also but wanted to reach you to say thank you once more for the amazing photos and help you have offered to all of us.  Good to see you back again.

Jerry

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Moving to the port davits.

 

Making the falls (tackle) for the port davits.

 

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I've chosen to display the port davits in the inboard position, while the starboard davits will be in the launching mode.

 

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Note the slack topping lift.

 

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Topping lift tensioned with weighted clip.

 

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Lift sling, jackstay and guys treated with fast C/A to hold shape.

 

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Weighted clip (Battery cable end filled with solder and tied to the mini clip.) These can be very helpful, placing light tension on lines during rigging.

 

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Cheers, Gil

 

 

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Attaching the anchors.

 

From left to right, a double block as supplied, a triple block shaped and a tripple block stained, stropped, with steel becket and anchor hook. I should have added holes in the upper part of the block to look more natural. On the starboard block, (the display side) those holes and carved slots will be added.

 

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Preparing the anchors.  These were previously covered in Section 13, page 3, post #39.  I plan to display the port best bower anchor in the stowed position (after McKay), while the starboard anchor will be suspended by the anchor block from the cathead.  This conveys even to the novice, the function of the cathead.

 

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Creating an eye splice from a line to chain, to support the stowed anchor.

 

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Continued in next post

 

 

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Anchor tackle at the cathead with the anchor ring in the hook. The line seized to the hook is the messenger to bring the block to the haus hole for retrieving the anchor.

 

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Anchor ring hooked with the messenger line seized to hook.

 

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Stowing the anchor.  Chain supporting the shaft.  Anchor ring still supported by the cathead tackle hook.

 

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Another post follows

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Final steps in stowing the anchor.

 

An eye splice for lashing the anchor ring to the cat head.

 

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Anchor ring lashed to the cathead.

 

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Cathead tackle shifted to a sling on the anchor shaft.

 

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Anchor in the stowed position.

 

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Next up.  Fastening the cable to the anchor.

 

Gil

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Impeccable work Gil. So much information here for the builder of any ship. Thank you!

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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Gil, you're the man even though you're my age.  LOL

Jerry

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good morning Gil

lovely work

is the wood pad fitted to the hull or to the anchor where the fluke butts up against the hull

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS.
KEEP IT REAL!

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On the build table

HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 

 

 

HMHS Britannic by Kevin 

SD 14  - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 -  Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72   U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48  Amerigo Vespucci     1/84 - Panart-   HMS Enterprise  -CAF -  1/48     

Finished     

St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020

HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished   Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 

Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat

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such beautiful work Gil...........glad to see you back!  :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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I have to agree with the majority.  Your log is  great read.  If I was a publisher I would put out a book titled HMS Victory a practicum on Jokita's kit of the Victory.  Tips and techniques to successfully build it and have fun.

David B

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I love it :-)

 

XXXDAn

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I'm speechless after seeing the precision of your rigging.  Incredible!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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Are we having fun yet?  Thanks to you all for your comments.  Alister, your "Fly" is a work of art. I enjoyed going through your log. Grant, Many thanks. Glad you still have one foot in the "kit" world.  David and Jerry.  Let's see. If we sold twenty copies at a two dollar royalty, we'd be wealthy??????  Mike, Great progress on your "Unicorn" (AKA "Lyme").  Daniel and Popeye, always a pleasure to see your interest.  And Kevin, the block is glued to the ship.  If it were fixed to the anchor, I'd be afraid it would foul the chain plates when positioning the anchor.  Cheers, Gil

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