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Hope this isn't a silly question. Can anyone explain to me how the clueline and sheet are 'tied' together on topyard and topgallant when no sails are present?
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Rudder straps look really great Dave. Have to agree with you on the steps, the ladders on my Snake are exactly the same but being taller the odd proportions are less noticeable. On my Jason build, I'm committing to make my own. Have you considered round off the top leading edge, that might make the proportions sit a little better without any packing. Just a thought.
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Even though still plenty of work to do on spars,I've started thinking about the final rigging steps. I pulled together a list of the various rigging elements and tied the various Caldercraft rigging plans to Petersson's excellent Rigging period Ship models reference book which I find much easier to follow.... Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so won't see errors until the rigging is started. Errors are of course my fault, but please let me know so I can correct. I may also post this in the main forum section. Question - What are peoples recommendations on the order to add yards? I was going to start at the fore mast, then foretopsaill and fore topgallant, then the same for the main main and mizzen. Think adding Jib-boom, spritsail yard and the spanker/gaff makes most sense as these seem most susceptible to accidents. Caldercraft HMS Snake Rigging Chart.pdf
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Really nice work Brian, deck shots look fantastic and very neat rigging of the gun tackle blocks.
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Hi Daniel, are you changing the shape/size of the bow? Fascinated to see your model of this develop. Looking at photos I always have mental image that the 1900s version is the 'real' version but after eating too many cookies
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Nice start Bob, mistakes seem to be a part of this process for everyone, the important thing is to keep moving on and getting comfortable with 'fixes'. Best of luck, I'll be following along.
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JesseLee, Mobbsie,Carl, and the likes - thanks for all the positive comments Continuing with the main yard: After adding a few of the requisite blocks, it was finally time to figure out how to tackle the stirrups and horses. The instructions indicate using wire, but I wanted something a little more realistic so tried making with 0.5mm line. Made the usual false splice into a length of line using an offcut of .75mm wire to get eye of appropriate size. These were then lashed around the yard in the appropriate places and diluted PVA applied to add some stiffness and secure in place. A length of wire was used to try to keep the eyes aligned and clamps provided a small amount of tension while glue dried. Instructions indicate the eye should be 15mm below the yard, I reduced this to 13mm as Ifelt it looked a little more to scale, and also seemed to match up better with diagrams in the AOTS series. I also decided to use 3 stirrups per side against the 2 indicated on the plans as the spacing looked too great to my eye. Horses were then added with yet more false splices around the center of the yard and around the cleats. The cleats were the smallest I could manage but seem to be what is required to keep to appropriate scale. The cleats are installed 1/20th of the length of the yard from the end. I had previously used paper to simulate the iron bands for the end boom iron. Yard dryfitted. Although the stirrups and horses will need a little bit of adjusting wjhen finally in position, I'm pretty happy with the result. Now need to replicate on the remaining yards now the plan of attack has been determined. Its amazing how congested things are getting, not sure how I'll manage to get the trusses on and the sling lashing when I get there, but thats a challenge for the future.
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Those props are amazing Nils, superb.
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Eric, the other solution is to ask for a new one from Caldercraft. They may hum and har a bit but will likely be willing to replace. The warp on the keel of my Diana/Jason kit was at the bottom (as painfully shown in my log), so glueing up the bulkheads/false deck would not solve the issue. I lost a good few months trying out different options, but very glad a replaced it in the end. Best of luck.
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Correct - and I think you'll be just fine filing down a bit, not much of a lip is needed for the shrouds.
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Eamonn, looking sharp! One question, can't quite tell from the light int he photos but it looks like your hounds are conically shaped (i.e. circular in cross section), think these should be octagonal. Of course, please ignore if I'm out of order...
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Peter, missed the start of this as well, deck planking is looking great, very nicely done joggling.
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Carl, Jonny, Nils, Mort and Jim and the 'likes', thanks for the "welcome back"... Breaking up shaping the remaining yards with the first of what I suspect will be a lot of work on rigging the yards, the lower sling. Previously estimated length of line was served, and then fed through itself to make a loop. About 6mm was left to allow the end to be cut into a short taper. GS Hypo glue was then placed on the end and rolled between my fingers. The thin thread is the end of the serving line not yet trimmed) Thread was then used to cover the unserved join, I used consecutive overhand knots, alternating sides.... Maybe a little bulky, but once trimmed its a reasonable approximation to a spliced, served loop. Fitted to the main yard.... ....and length checked to confirm it is of correct length. Second time was a charm!
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Really looking forward to seeing this develop Nils, a beautiful ship.
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Jesse, a great question to which I also devoted a lot of time and energy on my 'Jason', but could never prove definitively. Looking at a variety of pictures as best I could, I came to the conclusion that there should be a smooth inflection at the transition from the planking of the hull to the lower counter on the 'faster' single decked ships - I'd lean more to the angle in the last picture than the first. The more vertical transition in your first picture seems to be more appropriate for ships of the line. Just my opinion from looking at lots of pictures and having to work through the same problem...I could be completely wrong!
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Love your work Siggi, what I love about your work is that its impossible to tell the scale from the photos, everything looks as it you could be standing on the actual ship.
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Very nice work Grant, way out of my league but you make it look easy.
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Definitely interested in seeing these take shape Danny, the resin formers are a great idea. Shame its no longer available.
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Best of luck Eric, just keep a positive mindset and all will be well. you'll get lots of help.
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Dafi, you may have answered this elsewhere so I apologise if you have....but...what are you going to do when the lower deck is 'done'? Are you going to somehow keep the upper decks open so the detail can be see or will this be buried like the Pharaohs in the pyramids? Love your work, you should consider publishing book with your photos to bring the Georgian navy to life.
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I'm finally back at it. Very little time for anything for some time, but the break from Snake has brought me back more energized than ever to get her finished. I'll probably continue to provide step by step photo updates on the rigging as reminders for me and maybe something helpful to others. Not much, but evidence of progress. Foretopmast stay completed and belayed, and boomkins installed...
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Really awesome work Joe, those close up shots really do her and your work justice...yet more to aspire to :-)
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