Group Prototype HMS Winchelsea - FINISHED - 1764 - by Chuck (1/4" scale)

[dvm27]

Damn, Chuck, those volute scrolls are as nice as any I've seen on contemporary models. I think you've got this laser printing thing down pat! I wonder if you'll be able to do complex moldings like the main rail when you get to the bow. It's difficult even with scrapers.

 

 

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Wow, that is the appearance I like to create also for my HMS Triton. It's a fantastic result

[Beckmann]

On 11/29/2019 at 3:12 AM, Chuck said:

Here is a photo of the frieze with the name

 

 

Hello Chuck,

I personally prefer the colours, you used above.

Is it possible to get the freeze with this green-blue background? I am still thinking about the old masters gel stain. It would match better, using the darker Colours.

Thanks 

Matthias

[Chuck]

That is the color....it might just print differently on everyones printer.  Also my the photos may look different of my model because of my camera settings.   But no I cant change it because each piece is frieze is made up of several images strung together which would take hours and hours to redo and change....either in color or size.  So everyone will have to import them into a program if they want to change it.   I wont have the time or desire to custom alter the friezes for everyone.  What you see took about 100 hours to create over many weeks.

 

Chuck

[Beckmann]

Okay, if that is the colour, I am fine with it. I thought you changed into a lighter blue.

[rafine]

Fantastic work Chuck. BTW, one more vote for the painted roof.

 

Bob

[Chuck]

No but after printing....spraying and such....and taking photos it will look different than in real life.   But you can always import it and alter the saturation and contrast settings in photoshop or something.

 

 

 

[Tim Murphy]

Chuck, everything looks great. The side frieze design is the best that I have seen.

 The quarter galleries are works of art them selves. Still lean toward the natural roof, but like the slate 

color. 
Side note, I ordered the Boxwood set form Jack three days ago and they are delivering tomorrow.

That is unbelievable.

Hope you have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  Please get some Rest!

Tim

 

[Jim Rogers]

Chuck what size paper will this be printed on?

[Chuck]

If you mean the friezes they are in sections on 8 1/2 x 11 sheets.

 

thanks Tim,  i should also have have the resin sets up on my site today.  So watch for that.

[Jorge Diaz O]

Bellisimo trabajo maestro Passaro, espero comenzar pronto mi versión del HMS Winchelsea.¿El forro tendrá cobre??

[Jack H]

9 hours ago, Tim Murphy said:

Side note, I ordered the Boxwood set form Jack three days ago and they are delivering tomorrow.

Yes, I sent the first six sets to the agent yesterday. The agent has received them this morning and sent them to the United States from DHL this afternoon. It happens that the first six members are all in U.S.A. I have sent the second batch to the agent this afternoon. Tomorrow, the agent will send the second batch to DHL for sending out. merry Christmas to every one in advance！

 

Jack

Edited December 20, 2019 by hjx

[Chuck]

For those building in Cherry or pear.....

 

Here is what they will look like with a coat of OLD MASTERS fruitwood gel stain.  

 

I STRONGLY recommend that whether you are building in Yellow Cedar, Cherry or pear, that you apply a coat of this gel stain with a brush.  Leave it sit for a minute or two.  Then buff it off with another soft but clean brush or soft lint free cloth.   It really does the trick and creates the finish you want.  Below shown against some scrap Pear I had and left on a bit longer to get less contrast.

 

[Chuck]

Resin sets are now up on my site for sale.  I am also selling the figureheads stand alone.  Keep in mind the Christmas holiday so I may not be able to ship until after Xmas now.   The admiral is giving me too many Santa Duties.

 

Chuck

[Rustyj]

Looks great Chuck and I've placed my order! Take your time shipping and enjoy the Christmas holiday with your family!

[reklein]

I was looking back on your discussion of finishes on yellow cedar and I asked my cousin who still fishes out of Sitka about its use as planking on the wooden Salmon Trollers there. Yellow cedar isn't used that much for planking as it doesn't hold finishes well. It has a natural oil in it that rejects most finishes as you found out. If left to itself the cedar will naturally darken as I found out when a retailer of one of my carved paddles found out when he put a sticker on one. When removed by the customerer a lighter colored spot he shape of the sticker was left and the sale was rejected. It sure it pretty as model planking though. Your work is superb BTW. Another interesting thing about cedar is that its bark can be stripped in the spring of the year and is cleaned and cut into long flexible strips that  is then woven into durable baskets.

[Chuck]

Yes indeed.  Luckily our models dont see the outside and any water.  The cedar really works well and has a great color that is so complimentary with the use of boxwood.

 

In fact, to point that out, I finished the qgallery on the starboard side.  For the most part, all of the wood that makes up what you see on the qqallery is boxwood.  It blends really well with the cedar.  You get the benefit of the cheaper price so you can use it for planking and frames and other big stuff.  Then like done here you can switch to the ever more expensive boxwood for the details and other fittings.  In fact, most of the deck fittings and molding will all be done in boxwood.  

 

The qgallery roof rail is all laser cut from boxwood.  You basically have to evenly space the four uprights which are at an angle leaning aft.  There is a nice etched detail on each of them.  These are super super tiny at only 1/16" wide give or take and 1/8" tall.  Then the top rail is added.  This is laser cut with an etched detail along the bottom to give it some depth.  I sanded the laser char and rounded off the edges a bit.  Then I glued it on top of the four uprights.  Yes it a bit longer so you van adjust it to fit your model.

 

Lastly, the three laser cut fancy "flowers" for lack of a better description were glued into the space provided for them.  These are fragile.  Only 1/64" thick and again soooo tiny.  Dont even bother trying to remove the laser char from the edges.  They will break.  Just glue them in position.  That is what I did.

 

This completes all the work for the starboard side as described in chapter 3.  Now to repeat this on the port side!!!

 

Left natural and unpainted...just so you can see it.  Its too bright for my tastes.  I am going with the painted version.

 

 

The painted version....weathered to look like a slate color....I may still lighten it up a bit.

 

 

Overall the galleries came out well.  But these are tricky with so many complex angles.  I definitely recommend buying the laser cut pieces for these even if you are trying to build most everything from scratch.  The windows and glazing and the columns with laser etched flutes etc.  All of the laser cut and etched scrolls will be included too.  The angles are all worked out for you and this will make building the qgalleries so much easier.  These parts will be mostly boxwood for the cedar version and cherry for those building it in pear or some other darker wood.  

 

Oh and I added a scrap piece of painted strip to show you guys what the cap rail will eventually look like.   This will be painted black and glued on top of the sheer much later in the  project.  After we finish planking inboard.  Much later...but it shows how nice it will be finished off.

 

Any questions or comments??? 

[Peta_V]

Hi Chuck, 

You are doing incredible job, what ever you do. I would love to start with your Cheerful project (and then turn to this gem) but how is the shipping to europe pleasee? 

 

Thanks

Petr 

[Chuck]

Its what you would expect.  It costs a lot.  Its different depending on what you buy.  The easiest way to find out is to put stuff in your cart in my online store and then it will calculate it.  You will find the exact price that way before you check out.

[ChrisLBren]

Looks really good Chuck - still thinking about an approach for us building in Pear/Cherry.  Maybe just going with Boxwood colored for the rails and sculptures will look good. It does tie in well with the frieze.  Usually I only like three tones in a project - on this one there could be black wales, red bulwarks, pear planking, boxwood sculptures/rails and blue frieze.  Or dye all of the boxwood down using your recommended gel stain - Ill have to experiment.  

 

This ship is looking amazing - kudos - Im also thinking of rigging her.  Ive got the space !!!!

[Chuck]

I think it will look fantastic with the colors I just mailed you for the carvings.  The frieze will look good too.   You just need to wait until after planking is done to really experiment so you need to get back at it and start making some more sawdust.

[Rustyj]

I really can't say enough about your build process and how stunning it looks.

Going to the 1:48 scale was a great choice! Also the darker roof on the quarter

galleries looks better to me too.

[Peta_V]

3 hours ago, Chuck said:

Its what you would expect.  It costs a lot.  Its different depending on what you buy.  The easiest way to find out is to put stuff in your cart in my online store and then it will calculate it.  You will find the exact price that way before you check out.

Thanks a lot Chuck! Will check that. 

[Edwardkenway]

@Peta_V when I have looked a while back apart from he bulkheads all Winchelsea packages shipping was between $16 and $27

[Zarkon]

Chuck, you are doing a fantastic job! I wish I could start my build, but life keeps getting in the way!

 

Jeff

[Chuck]

Thanks guys....

[Edwardkenway]

Have a great Christmas holiday and new year and I look forward to the next chapters. 😁

Thanks Chuck 

[CaptMorgan]

On 12/21/2019 at 10:25 AM, ChrisLBren said:

This ship is looking amazing - kudos - Im also thinking of rigging her.  Ive got the space !!!!

LOL - I have lots of room too - it's the admiral that's having an issue with it.  She has nowhere to find a home!!!  

[Zarkon]

I couldn't help myself! I ordered the plywood laser-cut bulkheads and the Chapter 1 and 2 cherry packages! I will make time to start This build looks so much fun I can't wait!  Chuck has made an excellent product, and I want to support his efforts.

 

Jeff

[Chuck]

Thanks.  Its a fun project.  Glad to see you join us.