HMS Kingfisher 1770 by Remcohe - 1/48 - English 14-Gun Sloop - POF

[Vivian Galad]

Great explanation on methods. Just learning!! =*

[druxey]

It is amazing what we can learn from other model-makers, as well as what one invents for oneself, when one has to! I appreciate all the model makers on this site who are willing to share their knowledge.

[Remcohe]

A little progress on the whales, but first tool time.

I should have bought the rip taper jig from Jim when I ordered my table saw. Unsure why I didn't at the time. I made my own version. A few brass bars, aluminum plate & bolts assembled in the right way makes a very useful tool.

 

 

 

 

The whales are made from pear tinted with Fieblings (mahogany and black 6:1) The edges are pre painted as if fear for the paint running into places it shouldn't the sides will first be sanded flush before I can paint it. All planks are pre bend using a steam iron and the admiral's hair dryer

 

All looks a bit messy at this point

 

 

 

Remco

[alangr4]

Wonderful work Remco. Very ingenious your new taper jig.

 

I too raid the Admiral's stores. Careful though, if caught one has to scrub the floors and for a hair dryer it is usually a keel hauling, in my instance,!

 

Will you be planking both sides?

 

Alan

[SJSoane]

 

Hi Remco,

 

I have also been worried about staining the wales with Fieblings, and having it wick into the frames below. Is it working well to stain the edges off the ship?

 

Also, can you show a closer view of the stain with mahogany and black 6:1? I had not thought of diluting the black with something. I remember Ed worked for a dark brown rather than pure black on his Naiad.

 

Best wishes,

 

Mark

[Piet]

Hoi Remco, AWESOME ! ! !  Tool and die maker now too?  This is so much better then "store bought" stuff, don't you think?  The satisfaction of having made such a first class tool is well worth it.  Just like with me, with all those compliments, just watch them shoes though that you don't trip over them            

[Model Mariner]

very nice!

 

Klaus

[Remcohe]

Alan, I'll plank her on one side from the whole up.

Piet, yes it's fun to make your own tools, but there is a risk of wanting more tools, my mini late isn't really up to the task to use as a mill for bigger parts. shallow cuts and a lot of patience was needed and even then it chattered. Please Santa can I have a bigger mill???

Mark, yes it works well up until now. Better keep the stain well away from any parts I don't want to stain. 

Here's a discarded plank with the edge already stained next to a real ebony plank

 

 

Remco

 

 

[Piet]

Can't tell the difference from here Remco   Looks real to me !

 

Cheers,

[Trussben]

Does look good Remco, I think I will use the fiebigs method for my Pegasus instead of fighting with ebony, but I may give ebony a try anyway just to see how tough it is.

 

Ben

[harvey1847]

Hello Remco!

 

 

All looks a bit messy at this point

 

But, how many planks is made up the wale? 4 planks (on high)? And if you are staining the first two lanes, you are not worry about gluing stuff to the already painted planks above?

 

I thought you were going to complete the whole wale, sand it and then paint it... We´ll be here waiting to see the result.

 

best wishes!

 

 

Daniel.

[amateur]

Outside planking,

You're almost done

 

Jan

[michael mott]

A very nice tool there Remco, I have to agree with Druxey regarding all those who share their knowledge it has certainly helped me a great deal. lovely work on the whales.

 

Michael

[EdT]

Nice work as always, Remco.  I like the tapering guide. 

 

Mark, I used straight black acrylic ink on Naiad, thinned to a stain, then applied to semi-opaque to let the pear color come through.  However, in the end, it looks pretty black. 

 

ed

[Mike Y]

Remco, would you mind if I bother you with a next batch of questions regarding finish? it is one of the best I ever saw, so I am trying to learn on best examples!

What is the benefit of microcrystalline wax comparing to tung oil, why do you prefer it now? And all that comparing to wipe-on-poly?

Do you apply finish to a tiny pieces, like the beds, closets, etc?

What finish have you used for frames?

And the last one - what is your tactics for when to finish? Do you apply it before gluing, or after?

 

Thanks for all advices!

[derebek]

 congratulations perfect and very good work

[Remcohe]

Thanks guys!

 

Daniel, the whale is 3 strakes of planks. The row butting to the stained whale will not be glued on the edge.

 

Mike, the wax and oil have pro's and cons, build up of wax can easily be removed build up of oil not and will give a glossy finish. But oil encapsulates the remains of sanding dust which otherwise stand out like white traces in the grain of the wood and joints. I still ran a bit more to oil because of the latter. Whipe on poly (semi gloss) gives a gloss finish (of course) and I really done like that on models. You could also use sanding sealer as a finish, dead flat but a bit harder to apply on large area's. It's also a matter of taste. All parts are treated with finish like the bed and the closet, and always as a last step as glue does not  stick very well to surfaces with a finis applied. 

 

So the whale continues. I hope the treenails will stand out enough after the wood is stained. Being end grain it was darker on the test pieces, but the treenails will be hard to see. Same will be for the joints between the planks.  Tomorrow I'll apply the stain, I'm a bit scared about this step and hope there will be no stain flowing to the parts thad need no stain. I scored the wood with a scalpel where the whale touches the frames. 

 

 

 

 

Here the treenails are sanded flush with the whale and almost invisible

 

 

Remco

[MEDDO]

Very nice, interested in seeing how this turns out.

[mtaylor]

I think everyone who's followed this build will be holding their breath and keeping fingers crossed for you, Remco.  

[Mike Y]

Remco, thanks again for sharing your knowledge!

[Remcohe]

Take a breath folks. I finished applying the finish....

 

The good, it turned out nice dark brown (not as black as on the pictures) and the structure of the wood is still a bit visible. The joints of the planks appear slightly visible so it does not look like one big plank.

 

The bad, I made 400 treenails disappear, only when the light hits at a certain angle they are barely visible and the stain is a bit blotchy, applying more coats made it better but also made the treenails less visible. Only one run out at a spot I didn't want, under the strern

 

I also applied the finish (tung oil) it's still drying hence the glossy look at the moment. That will disappear once dry and a quick while with a Scotch pad. Then I can add bolts at the plank ends.

 

 

 

 

Remco

[alangr4]

 

Looks wonderful Remco.

 

Did you apply the wales as one strake the length of Kingfisher?  Is the thickness the same the length of the vessel?

 

Cheers

 

 

Alan

[allanyed]

Remco

 

The Fiebings dye was a new one for me.  Thanks for sharing that information.  Do you or does anyone else on the site have long term experience with it regarding fading or effects from long exposure to sun light, etc?  If you posted more on this product earlier, I missed and thus apologize for the question.

 

Thanks again for sharing, your model is terrific.

Allan

[ChrisLBren]

Looks terrific Remco - cant go wrong with Fiebings.  Personally i think treenails standing out against dark/black wales looks odd.  Subtlety is always better.  

Chris

[rafine]

I really like the look Remco. I agree with Chris about the treenails.

 

Bob

[gjdale]

I'll agree with Bob, who agreed with Chris...... subtle is better in this case. It looks fabulous Remco.

[dvm27]

That;s a beautiful belt of wales, Remco. I could have told you the trunnels would disappear under the merciless staining of Fiebings. I've tried using a lighter wood like holly for the treenails to see if there would be a difference but all turns out uniformly black.

[Trussben]

Looks great Remco, nice uniform finish and I agree with the others, subtle treenails.

 

Ben

[druxey]

You'll probably find, with wood movement over time, that the seams and treenails will 'read' more than they do right now.

[Piet]

I'll add my kudos as well Remco.  It certainly looks very dark and I can see a few treenails too.  Very nice looking wale.

 

Cheers,