mtaylor Posted October 8, 2021 Author #91 Posted October 8, 2021 Thanks for the likes and comments. I've started sanding and will take my time and not rush it. I know I'll have gap fill but I'm ready for that. On this step as Willie Nelson would say: "It's been fun and it's been real. But it ain't been real fun.". On the bright side, it was a good lesson to re-learn on first planking. Old Collingwood, Canute, gjdale and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
mtaylor Posted October 10, 2021 Author #92 Posted October 10, 2021 Port side is pretty much done sanding. Feels smooth to the touch. Lessons re-learned.... do a better job planking. Maybe add some filler between bulkheads in any area with curves (bow mainly). Now to start the starboard side. I may rip off a few planks and re-lay them. Note to self... check and re-sand and recheck again the stern transom area. BobG, EricWilliamMarshall, Glenn-UK and 14 others 17 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
bdgiantman2 Posted October 10, 2021 #93 Posted October 10, 2021 Port side of hull looks great, buddy. I know I need to work at planking myself, have that half-hull tutorial kit to do. Will be having to take top planking off of long boat and reglue it on because of positioning errors I made. Canute, Jack12477, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
Glenn-UK Posted October 10, 2021 #94 Posted October 10, 2021 Looks good Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Glenn (UK)
mtaylor Posted October 11, 2021 Author #95 Posted October 11, 2021 Starboard side is done. Did the finger test* on both sides and I'm pretty happy. I also trimmed up the stern area, fitted the counter to test and it's now soaking to be bent and secured into place. I'll pull the blue tape off tomorrow. *Finger test: close eyes, run finger tips over hull. Edwardkenway, Beef Wellington, Old Collingwood and 15 others 18 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Old Collingwood Posted October 11, 2021 #96 Posted October 11, 2021 Excellent work Mark, getting the first done is such a mile stone - and those counter bends "dont get me started" you are doing superb my friend. OC. Jack12477, BobG, EricWilliamMarshall and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Glenn-UK Posted October 11, 2021 #97 Posted October 11, 2021 Great job, always good to complete the 1st planking Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Glenn (UK)
mtaylor Posted October 12, 2021 Author #98 Posted October 12, 2021 Not that much done today but enough.. a bit more work later to be done later this evening. The counter has been soaked and pinned (but not glued). I wondering if this in right position . Feels (mentally) like I"m too far astern and it needs to in the direction of the arrow. EricWilliamMarshall, gjdale, BobG and 7 others 10 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Old Collingwood Posted October 12, 2021 #99 Posted October 12, 2021 I guess you have some freedom with the counter as the second planking and the counters first could join covering any gaps or profile. I might be wrong but thats how it looks like it might work Mark. OC. Canute, Gregory, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Glenn-UK Posted October 12, 2021 #100 Posted October 12, 2021 It is important to get the position of the lower counter pattern correct. I set mine a bit too low, your looks well positioned which is good. When I do this stage again I will dry fit the parts of the quarter gallery so I know where the quarter gallery berthing pattern will be positioned. I will then dry fit the upper counter pattern and stern fascia patterns as the berthing pattern needs to be aligned with the upper counter pattern and the stern fascial pattern needs to be 2mm above the transom. When this has been checked the correct position of the lower counter pattern will be known. Canute, Old Collingwood, JeffT and 5 others 8 Quote Glenn (UK)
mtaylor Posted October 12, 2021 Author #101 Posted October 12, 2021 Thanks, Glenn. I think I've got the right position at this point or at least "close". Old Collingwood and Canute 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
mtaylor Posted October 13, 2021 Author #102 Posted October 13, 2021 Tonite's update. I appreciate the likes and helpful comments. Not pulling my hair out yet nor reaching for a stiff adult beverage. The keel parts have been "skinned" and stern built up with it's skins. I took some time and removed as much char as I could (stayed in my comfort zone) without overdoing it. Since I'm not planning on painting the white stuff I thought this would help the appearance. If Murphy rears his ugly head, I may change my mind. And yes, there's a few spots where the fairing of the planking went too far and had to be "patched". Barbossa, marktiedens, oneslim and 18 others 21 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
mtaylor Posted October 15, 2021 Author #103 Posted October 15, 2021 Not much to report as have had "other" things going on. I am working still on the skins. The top ones are in and the lower ones are works in progress. But then I took a pic today while glue was drying.... title it "you can't have too many clamps". I don't have enough and the hardware store I visited was out. realworkingsailor, JeffT, DelF and 19 others 22 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
bdgiantman2 Posted October 15, 2021 #104 Posted October 15, 2021 Looks good, buddy. Slow and steady is our game, rushing things in this hobby only leads to sloppy outcomes. Canute, Old Collingwood and mtaylor 3 Quote
DaveBaxt Posted October 15, 2021 #105 Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) That is a 'Blast from the past' I didn't know they still made wooden pegs. I thought every thing was made in plastic these days.Second planking is looking great! Dis you lay the first one at the top and work your way down or by the position of the pegs it looks to be the other way round? Edited October 15, 2021 by DaveBaxt Canute, Old Collingwood and mtaylor 3 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
Jasseji Posted October 15, 2021 #106 Posted October 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, DaveBaxt said: That is a 'Blast from the past' I didn't know they still made wooden pegs. I thought every thing was made in plastic these days.Second planking is looking great! Dis you lay the first one at the top and work your way down or by the position of the pegs it looks to be the other way round? he;s only started the 2nd planking - first you need to put the 2 laser-engraved pieces on each side which for the bulwarks and wales, then you plank from below deck level Canute, Jack12477 and mtaylor 3 Quote Jacek Current Build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models 1/64 On Hold/Parallel: Lady Nelson - Amati/Victory Models 1/64
Nirvana Posted October 15, 2021 #107 Posted October 15, 2021 15 hours ago, mtaylor said: Not much to report as have had "other" things going on. I am working still on the skins. The top ones are in and the lower ones are works in progress. But then I took a pic today while glue was drying.... title it "you can't have too many clamps". I don't have enough and the hardware store I visited was out. And we are hoarding clamps as well!😁 Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
mtaylor Posted October 15, 2021 Author #108 Posted October 15, 2021 Thanks for the comments and likes. 14 hours ago, DaveBaxt said: .Second planking is looking great! Dis you lay the first one at the top and work your way down or by the position of the pegs it looks to be the other way round? Jacek is correct. I've just finished the first two laser cut/carved pieces. If you'll go to Chris's website, the instruction might still be there to download as a pdf. 4 hours ago, Nirvana said: And we are hoarding clamps as well!😁 Hoarding? Not hardly. LOL. Here's were I am today. The first two planking sheets are installed. I would have done more but life got in the way this week. Hopefully will pick up speed and ambition starting today. Here's a photo of the current state. harlequin, Barbossa, Glen McGuire and 21 others 23 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
bdgiantman2 Posted October 15, 2021 #109 Posted October 15, 2021 Those laser-etched planking on the sides of hull are sweet. This model looks really good. Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
BobG Posted October 16, 2021 #110 Posted October 16, 2021 Your model is really taking shape, Mark, and it's going to be special when you have her all done. Nice work! Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
mtaylor Posted October 16, 2021 Author #111 Posted October 16, 2021 Thanks for likes and comments. This really is a fun project. BTW, I just found out that you can bend the thin stuff without soaking it which warps the wood. I fire up my "plank bender" which is an 88W curling iron and moving the piece back and forth on the iron will bend the second planking nicely and no need to put in water. Win-win. Glen McGuire, Edwardkenway, EricWilliamMarshall and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
mtaylor Posted October 18, 2021 Author #112 Posted October 18, 2021 Back 10 and punt time... I've lined the hull off for planking and realized an "oops" at the counter. One side of the counter (actually not the whole side, just part of it) extends "above" (hull upside down) about a smidgen... maybe not much but it's bugging me. I think a bit paint when I do the wales and paint will hide it but I may just remove the counters and reglue them. Also sorting out my wood choices for the 2nd layer.. pear from the kit, swiss pear from my stock, or just do the pear and paint. Decisions, decisions. And there's a few areas which need spot filling. Digging out the sawdust and glue..... One question.... was "white stuff" actually pure white? I thought I read somewhere it actually a very pale yellow. Jack12477, Canute, BobG and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
TBlack Posted October 18, 2021 #113 Posted October 18, 2021 I love sawdust and glue. Canute, mtaylor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote
Old Collingwood Posted October 18, 2021 #114 Posted October 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, mtaylor said: Back 10 and punt time... I've lined the hull off for planking and realized an "oops" at the counter. One side of the counter (actually not the whole side, just part of it) extends "above" (hull upside down) about a smidgen... maybe not much but it's bugging me. I think a bit paint when I do the wales and paint will hide it but I may just remove the counters and reglue them. Also sorting out my wood choices for the 2nd layer.. pear from the kit, swiss pear from my stock, or just do the pear and paint. Decisions, decisions. And there's a few areas which need spot filling. Digging out the sawdust and glue..... One question.... was "white stuff" actually pure white? I thought I read somewhere it actually a very pale yellow. Do you mean the colour paint white used in the time Mark? I thought according to Admiralty Paints it was a Dull Off White. OC. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
glbarlow Posted October 18, 2021 #115 Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, mtaylor said: actually a very pale yellow. No idea what the real white stuff looked like, but pale yellow would look sickly on a model in my opinion. I use Admiralty’s Paints Matt White on my hulls, for whatever reason Admiralty’s Dull White doesn’t cover well over large surfaces. Odd considering how well Dull Black does. Canute, mtaylor and Jack12477 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Royal Barge, Medway Long Boat Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Old Collingwood Posted October 18, 2021 #116 Posted October 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, glbarlow said: No idea what the real white stuff looked like, but pale yellow would look sickly on a model in my opinion. I use Admiralty’s Paints Matt White on my hulls, for whatever reason Admiralty’s Dull White doesn’t cover well over large surfaces. Odd considering how well Dull Black does. Mine needed several coats to cover smoothly. OC. mtaylor, Canute and Jack12477 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
mtaylor Posted October 18, 2021 Author #117 Posted October 18, 2021 Thanks for the comments and likes. I'm holding off on the paint for now. I'm going to use the swiss pear I have for planking as it's more uniform and a tad darker in color than the kit provided wood. If things turn south and I'm not happy with the wood... fill and paint will be the order of the day. Back to the second layer of planking...... EricWilliamMarshall, BobG, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Glenn-UK Posted October 18, 2021 #118 Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) Good luck with your second planking, fingers crossed for a fab unpainted finish Edited October 18, 2021 by glennard2523 Canute, Jack12477, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Glenn (UK)
mtaylor Posted October 18, 2021 Author #119 Posted October 18, 2021 Mine are too even if it does make it tough to work. Edwardkenway, Canute, CaptnBirdseye and 2 others 4 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Kevin Posted October 19, 2021 #120 Posted October 19, 2021 very nice indeed i will have a look through @James H and see what white he used Jack12477, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
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