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   Nicely done Mark,

 

     Thanks for the explanation on the micro-glaze & glass. Great information.

 

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Nice work Mark!!

It is very coming along nicely.

 

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I have never used Micro-glaze Mark,  Usually it was acetate or microscope glass.  Thanks for the tutorial.

David B

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It was a first time for me also David.  I've always used acetate and it just never looks "right".

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Nice glazing job Mark.  Yeah, acetate works but does not reflect the primitive glazing they used in those days, especially a few hundred years ago, like my VOC ship.

Hmmm, would it be too late for me to change????  :o

 

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G'day Mark 

the widows are so good. Was there any warping  sideway and up and down, or just twisting?

The small size of the timber would almost be impossible to be done without your death star.

Havagoodone mate

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It warped the long way, Greg which would be the normal direction as the grain runs from side to side.  If I had turned the wood 90 degrees to cut it, it would have warped sideways.  Then again, I'm wondering if the Euro Boxwood itself.. I have some more and the thinner stuff is warping.  

 

And I agree, cutting the small bits like windows, even the nameplate on the rear would be pretty darn hard.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Thanks for the "likes" and the comments on the windows.  I hope it helps someone.

 

I would advise that you definitely test on a dummy/scrap window before trying the real thing.

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Mark, if I may add something. Check in a well stocked hobby shop for Microscale Decals Micro Kristal Klear. It can be used on windows up to about a quarter inch. In a pinch, some have used it as a glue for clear plastic, since CA tends to fog up clear plastic. Sells in a 1 ounce bottle.

Ken

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Chris,

It was the MM brand of Micro-Glaze.   I don't know if they still sell it.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Ken,

I'm late with this... I'll look into that for the next ship. I'm kinda' locked into this method for the rest of the glazing, I think.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Mark, I put it out for general use by anyone who is trying to glaze small windows, as an alternative to the MM stuff. I didn't see it in the current MM catalog, but it may be on the website.

 

Keep on truckin' with what you're doing. :)  I am fascinated by the POF Hahn construction. Some day I may do one. :rolleyes:

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

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It's good to see you back, Sam, even if just for a bit.  Work is hell..  :)

 

Ken, I think the Microscale needs a topic of it's own out there.  I did some Googling and this might be perfect for many of us.

 

 

These pictures are some of "test" shots to sort things out.

 

The stern now has it's upper molding and the rest planked in ebony.  It still needs more sanding  

 

The main stern carving is a "bad" carving blank which is hitting the scrap box as it's served it's purpose.  I stuck it on with some double sided tape for position and appearance.  I noted that it's too low and needs to be higher to look right.  The real carving is on the workbench and slowly being attacked with various implements of construction and destruction.   :) I think it's a perspective issue when I stuck it on.  The transom being angled, it looks low when viewed head on.  

 

The taffrail... this one's a headache.  I've changed the drawing to reflect where this one doesn't quite fit and also to lengthen the "legs".  I originally designed it as a one piece but the legs are entirely cross-grain which weakens things (I think I've broken about 5 at this point while cleaning off the char). The other is an appearance  that I'm not happy with.  The cross-grain on the legs just looks dirty no matter how much it's sanded/scraped.  I even cut one in half and the cut area looks "dirty".   Anyway, I've reworked it so it's made of three pieces.. a crosspiece and two legs with the grain going in the proper direction.  I hope to cut another later today or tomorrow.

 

I'm noticing that things are quite perfect still in the dimension area but not much I can do at point, but I'll sort it out and tweak as best I can.  I'm about 1/32" (2") off on the level, left-to-right where the transom meets the counter.  And it's off about the same on witdth.  One side is just a bit wider at the top.   I'm thinking that the beams shifted slightly when I was reconstructing this area.  Nothing serious but I thought I'd point it out.

 

I do need to flip this beast over and plank the inside of the transom area above the deck beam so I can sand it down and shape before fitting the taffrail.  

 

I'm thinking, right now, the taffrail will be un-adorned.  I tried carving some acanthus leaves for this area, but... I need a lot more practice for some thing that tiny. I keep at it as there's no rush on the carvings.

 

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Comments and critiques are always welcomed and yes, this is to be continued. ;)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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No comment or critiques Mark.

Just what Sam is saying.....drooling !!!!!!!!!!

Great job so far.

I'll will be waiting for other results.......

 

Sjors

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Beautifully done Mark,

The windows are well spaced and have even symmetrical shape to them, and

with the glazing it is going to finish very well done.

Chris

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Really well done Mark!  To me, wrongly proportioned or aligned windows can ruin what is otherwise a nice model.  Yours look spot on, very nice job!

 

I like the glazing you used.  I bought that same stuff from Micromark a while back because I didn't want to fiddle with plastic film or glass and getting errand glue smudges.  The effect is really nice.

Mike

 

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The stern is coming along nicely Mark; keep practising the leaves - you'll get there.

 

Is it a trick of the light or have your treated the window glazing to create an internal candle glow effect?  Looks great in the photo.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Looks Amazing Mark, Beautifully done

 

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looks really nice Mark.......if you hadn't mentioned the short comings,  I would never had known.   I tip my hat to anyone who can make decorations like that.....yours is just another stunning example!   very nice work!  :)

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Thanks for the "likes" and the comments.   

 

 

No comment or critiques Mark.

Just what Sam is saying.....drooling !!!!!!!!!!

Great job so far.

I'll will be waiting for other results.......

 

Sjors

 

That makes two of us waiting for other results, Sjor.   ;)

 

 

Really well done Mark!  To me, wrongly proportioned or aligned windows can ruin what is otherwise a nice model.  Yours look spot on, very nice job!

 

I like the glazing you used.  I bought that same stuff from Micromark a while back because I didn't want to fiddle with plastic film or glass and getting errand glue smudges.  The effect is really nice.

 

The glazing is growing on me.  I like the imperfection of it and the longer it sits, the stronger it seems to have become.  

 

 

The stern is coming along nicely Mark; keep practising the leaves - you'll get there.

 

Is it a trick of the light or have your treated the window glazing to create an internal candle glow effect?  Looks great in the photo.

 

cheers

 

Pat

 

It actually back lite by shop light, Pat.  I opened the blinds since it was "somewhat" sunny today and killed the flash.  :)  It almost makes want to put in LED's...  A little late for that, I think.

 

Beautifully done Mark,

The windows are well spaced and have even symmetrical shape to them, and

with the glazing it is going to finish very well done.

Chris

 

Thanks Chris. The windows fit nicely on the transom frames.  I think is right.. the window spacing is the "big deal".  

 

 

And I think I found the problem...  the area highlighted in red.  I'm thinking that the framing underneath is off a bit.  Since the planks edges are flush with that framing..  so it goes.  Sanding sticks at the ready.

 

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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  Nothing works like elbow grease Mark.  Nice work. I'm becoming super envious of the laser cutter though.  How long til Father's day when I can make up an excuse to buy something else?  Heh

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