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Posted

Ahoy Augie

 

You should do a review of it in the Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment forum.  

 

As I have been eyeballing the Proxxon version I would love to hear some additional comments on the one you bought.

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

Posted

Chapter 3 has been completed.

 

I mentioned previously that the last bit on the stern was the addition of a few fillers.  This turned out to be an exercise in Olympic-level Freestyle Sanding...but I think the fairing came out OK.  So here's one last pic of the stern framing (I promise):

 

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Yes, JP, the pencil sander came in handy again.  I'm sure both Proxxon and this Microlux are both worthwhile.

 

And that brings us to the false deck.  It is 1/32 ply, laser cut and supplied in 4 pieces:

 

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Amazingly, the 4 parts slipped right in without any sanding whatsoever.  I laid them in one at a time being careful to line up the lazer drawn alignment lines around the hatches and masts.  Checking RustyJ and Trussben's logs, I decided to glue the decks down using 6 minute epoxy.  There are not enough clamps West of the Mississippi to use PVA.  The epoxy gave me time to maneuver and, with just weighting each section for about 20 minutes apiece, the job was done.:

 

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She's back on her keel now and ready for starting gun port framing.  She's growing up :)  :)

 

 

 

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Looks great Augie, as always and as expected...

May I ask a question?

Why isn't preferable; to fix by nailing the false deck onto the frames after being treated with PVA? Eventually the deck will be planked. There won't be any nail in sight.

I see a lot of builds on which the decks are glued with the aid of some weights on them and many rubbers and clamps...

I know if the deck had been planked before fixing onto frames this way is indispensable...

I know also that everyone here knows to fix the deck with PVA and nails but I would like to learn why this isn't preferable...

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted
Posted

Your off to a good start. Keep the pictures coming. I have learn a long time ago that you will never have enough clamps. I always look and see if I can get any when they are on sale, for dome reason Lowe's always seems to be cheaper than Home Depot not sure why but they are.

Wacko

Joe :D

 

Go MSW :) :)

Posted

a stunning frame Augie.......nicely fared. ;)   I don't like to use brads either.......if I do,  I pull them out after it's dry.  you've come a long way,  in a short amount of time....she looks great!  :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted
Posted

Looking real good Augie, your making excellent progress mate.

 

mobbsie

mobbsie
All mistakes are deliberate ( me )


Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle

 

Completed Builds :-   Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ),  Granado Cross Section 1/48

Harwich Bawley, Restoration,  Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration,  Will Everard 1/67 Billings 

HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft KitHM Brig Badger,  HM Bomb Vessel Granado,
Thames Steam Launch Louise,  Thames Barge Edme,  Viking Dragon Boat


Next Build :-  

Posted

She certainly is coming together nicely Augie. Interesting to read your comments on your approach to gluing the false deck - that makes quite some sense to me.

Posted

Thanks everyone for your continued interest.  Taking a day or 2 mental break to prepare for the next phase.  Sorry SJORS, might be a few days before planking starts :D  :P  :D .

 

Ferit's question is interesting.   But the answer is simple ....... never even thought of using nails !  I'll keep that technique in my armamentarium for possible future use.  One does need to be careful with the weight/epoxy technique to assure everything is sitting right or it can burn you.  Weight or clamp carefully and check 3 times before you walk away.  This is the reason I used 6 minute epoxy ---- I have 10, 30 and 120 minute epoxies sitting right on the bench.  But with 6 minute you need to work quickly, get it set right, get some weights on in appropriate places and then use your fingers as weights to be absolutely sure.  Then stand still for 10 minutes and you're done.  If anything is wrong, grab the isopropyl alcohol.

 

Please keep in mind I've used this technique to plank airplane wings with 1/64 to 3/32 balsa wood for years so I'm used to it.  Clamps and PVA  are a much safer way to go on a ship.

 

Bob-  'ease' is not in the dictionary out here.  TRUST ME :)  :) :)  

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted (edited)

Ahoy Augie :D

 

Amazing progress :)

 

I do like Ferit's comment. A few nails or even a pins would prevent the part from shifting when pressure is applied.

Edited by JPett

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

Posted

Really nice Augie, I see planking in the short future....

John

Current Current Builds:

US Brig Niagara on my website

FINISHED BUILD LOGS:

New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website:  http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html

C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/

USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/

 

website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com

website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com

website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com

Posted

Hi Augie,

 

I've been silently watching and can only echo the same compliments offered by others. She looks amazing...

Regards,

Larry

----------------------------------------------------

Current Build

US Brig Niagara

Completed Builds

George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat

Future Builds

18th Century Longboat by MS

HM Cutter Cheerful

Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel

 

If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges :)

Posted

Augie, did you remember to add some support for the false deck behind the beakhead?

As you begin the gunport framing make sure to use the temp batterns to get a good and smooth/even sheer down her length, mine matched very close to the laser marks but still needed a lil but of adjustment.

Enjoy and I look forward to seeing your next steps, brings back great memories.

 

Ben

Posted

BEN-   yup, thanks to you (and indirectly Rusty), put in some support up there.  Think I'll play with the beakhead planking before I hit the gunports.  Got a couple of days of 'real life' rearing it's ugly head coming up.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted
I'll keep that technique in my armamentarium for possible future use. 

 

 

Wow - impressive workmanship, Augie - looking very good!  I did have to look up that thar high falutin word you used...and used quite appropriately, might I add!

 

noun (plural armamentaria), a collection of resources available or utilized for an undertaking or field of activity

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Posted

.....gotta look in the MSW rule book about words over ten letters  :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

I've learned a new word! And of course been suitably impressed by your craftsmanship, Augie! You're working fast! The fact that there is only one page of comments between your photo updates is a testament to your agility at both the workbench and the keyboard!


hamilton


current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

Posted

Augie,

 

I get buried at work for a few days and at home with the new pup, and shazam!  you're flying at the speed of sound.  And it all looks perfect too.  

 

JPett,

Go here for that review:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/341-micro-power-sanders/

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Really nice Augie - she is framing up and coming together very nice, enjoying this quite a bit!

 

 

-Adam

-Adam

 

Current Builds

Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB
Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June)

 

On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently

USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB

18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF

La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB

 

Completed Builds

Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull

 

Decommissioned Builds
(Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( )

Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF
USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull

 

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