HMS Kingfisher 1770 by Remcohe - 1/48 - English 14-Gun Sloop - POF

[Piet]

Interesting dialog!  You can always dream up a likable story, like - - - they had problems with making the "new" Brodie stove, like problems with the moulds, poor iron alloy, poor casting, all that making delivery late.  So the Navy just told the shipwright, we can't wait any longer, so go ahead and build the brick hearth - - - we'll replace it later when Brodie has got their act together   

 

I'm sure that a brick hearth will add a lot of interest and charm to he model.  You can weather it nicely with smoke stains, grease splatters, a spit, big iron cauldrons, iron hardware, etc.   Hmmmm, you can also add the cook      

 

We can dream, but that's the fun part of these projects.

 

Cheers, 

[Remcohe]

Ok , I accept the challenge Mr Druxey......... 

 

So first I need a plan to work from. Based on what I found researching the hearth I drafted this, no grill on the opposite side I guess as the hearth stands agains a bulkhead. Comments more than welcome!

 

 

Now how about making it from real bricks.... First a little testing with dummy wooden bricks to see if this could work. 

 

 

Woodglue tinted with pigment to give a mortar look. Not quite satisfied with that its to thin to make a real layer... need to think about this, maybe thin strips of paper to make the spacing between the bricks first..

 

 

This could work so I ordered some ceramic bricks from a modelshop, now all you guys have to do is wait until they arrive....

 

Remco

[texxn5]

Hello Remco.  I couldn't help but see this dialog about bricking.  I recently finished bricking my Tryworks for the CW Morgan.  I used wood bricks, and for the mortar I found that at 1/64 scale a strip of cardsheet made from a beer carton was the closest to scale thickness that I needed.  I just recessed  them onto the top of the bricks, then laid the next layer.  It is not to your skill level, but acceptable for me.  I then painted the inside and the frontside with MS's white primer which is quite thick in consistency and it filled in the holes and became a very nice mortar.  I then painted the front of the bricks the proper color.  Anyway, just thoughts I'm sure you already know what your going to do....good luck, I'll be following this for sure...

[dvm27]

Looking good, Remco! I made a very convincing brick hearth for Druid some time ago but it is hidden in the bows of the model. Long lengths of 2 1/2" x 4 1/2" stock were prepared with vertical "mortar joints" slit in every 8". These lengths were offset and laminated over slightly inset 1" fillers to represent the mortar in between layers. After assembly, the hearth was painted with antique white (making sure to get into all the mortar joints), followed by dry brushing the surface with a brick red color. It's more of an assembly line approach but it worked well for me. I've no doubt, however, that your's will look amazing whatever technique you use.

[SJSoane]

 

Hey, Remco, go for it! I can't wait to see this at your usual exceptionally high standard!

 

Are you going to have to lower the beams at the bow to make this fit?

 

Best wishes,

 

Mark

[Piet]

Wow, real ceramic bricks, I'm impressed!  Your plan looks very good Remco.  With those ceramic bricks you could build a real fire in that thing and make some pizzas    I see you have a pizza oven!

 

Paper to simulate mortar is the way to go but let the cement or glue penetrate all the way through.  Paper tend to separate easy in the middle.  But then again, nobody is going to touch it after it's build.

You can use colored paper to simulate mortar, yes? 

 

 

[druxey]

So, the gauntlet has been picked up! I'll look forward to seeing the result. Good move, sir.

[rlb]

Remco,

 

I am happy that you are entertaining Druxey's sly challenge!  I predict it will turn out quite well.

 

Ron

[korablik1979]

Hi Remco. My name is Alexander. Sorry for the bad English. I'm from Russia and English writing bad. I have a question for you. In the drawings of the ship at Harold Hahn have drop deck. 

You done smoothly. Why? Incorrect information from Hahn?

Do you still have seen a caveat. Hahn place where joint border where you no longer vertical knee. Why?

[Remcohe]

Hi Alexander,

 

Hann is correct my NMM plan also shows the drop in hight on the deck plan. But I noticed this too late and the deck was already installed, I'm not going to tear this out as long as all you guys at MSW don't tell anybody about my mistake. I followed the deck plan from TFFM and the layout of the hanging knee's that's why there is no additional hanging knee at the bow.

 

Remco

[korablik1979]

thank you very much for your reply, Remco.

Closely following your work, thanks again for the detailed description of the work.

[Remcohe]

An other trade to master, stone  masonry ... 

 

I cancelled the stones I had ordered and got a rubber mold from dioramadebris.co.uk instead , now I can cast my own bricks in the color I want. First I made a big batch with slightly different colors (plaster & pigment)

 

 

Then I had to find a way to make the mortar. At first I glued the sones with thin paper sheet in-between to get an even spacing. I had planned to use sculpey to make the mortar but this doesn't stick to plaster :-( 

So I had to find an other solution, from the DYI shop I got a pack with powder mixed with water this is used to fill holes in walls, as this dries in just under 1 hour it looked good, but this didn't stick to the plaster too :-( 

 

 

So I mixed it with titebond and pigment and this was a working formula. The surplus removed just before it dries and with a wet brush I softened the flushing. 

 

 

 

 

 

At this point the chimney needs to be made, I'll make this from brick and not steel like my original plan. In the two holes two big cooking pans are fitted. The square hole's on the sides will get a metal hinged doors. Opposite to the hearth I'll make a pantry with different kitchen utensils. I must say it's really time consuming to make but this is really a lot of fun to do. The admiral is complaining she didn't see me all weekend :-D 

 

Remco

Edited April 6, 2014 by Remco

[texxn5]

I enjoyed building mine also, it gets ahold of you and you can't stop.....meanwhile the weekend goes away and the Admiral is unhappy.....This looks really good Remco, I'm going to follow the link for the brickmolds for future reference, I was unaware of these....thanks for the pictures.

[Sven]

Now that is totally convincing!

 

[Jim Lad]

Just catching up after being away for a week, Remco - very impressive indeed!

 

John

[garyshipwright]

Nice Going Remco.

 

I knew you could do it sir and nice looking brick fire heath by the way. As far as different kitchen utensils, I seem to be in the market for some my self. If you find out the sizes of the different items let me know, would you please. Good job.

 

Gary

[druxey]

There now, I knew you could do a brilliant job, Remco! Looks terrific.

[dvm27]

You're a wonder, Remco! That fire hearth fooled everyone in my family who thought it was full size.

[Elia]

That is quite convincing, Remco. Very, very nice.

 

Cheers,

 

Elia

[mtaylor]

Jeez Louise... I thought that was full-size and real for bit there.   Teach me to look at the last picture first.

[tlevine]

Your talent is unbelievable.  What are your going to cook on that stove first?

[ChrisLBren]

Damn - nice work Remco - and looks like it was fun !

[SJSoane]

 

Remco,

 

Nice, very nice! Absolutely convincing.

 

Mark

[Piet]

Hoi Remco,  that's fantastikamogoro!  (What??? - - - don't ask me )  In Indonesian it is bagus betul betul.  Looks real!  Now that's truly scratch building, making your own bricks and mortar.  Now I figure you'll be casting your own cannons too        Yes?

 

Understand the comment of the admiral, I spend most of the time in the shipyard too.

 

Cheers, 

[BANYAN]

Excellent work Remco, very authentic look andf feel to it - Congrats on such a remarkable job.  Now, I have a BBQ that needs some brick work done.....

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Alex M]

WOW Remco! Looks very real, hard to imagine this is at small scale!

 

Alex

[gjdale]

Now THAT is an impressive piece of scratch building ingenuity Remco. But then again, no one here ever doubted that you would come up something brilliant!

[Rustyj]

I wish I could say I’m stunned at the realism but you’ve spoiled us and now we expect, and receive,

such fine work it would be more stunning if you did not produce your awe inspiring work.

 

Verrrryyyyy well done!  

[Remcohe]

Wow thanks guys! It's really fun to build this little stove, much more than I had imagined. Now I understand why people build small buildings from individual brick, one ought to try once. 

Tony, I think a simple stew would be appropriate.

Gee Rusty you're tough to please

 

So chimney added, time to make some pots and pans....

 

 

 

 

 

Remco

Edited April 6, 2014 by Remco

[harvey1847]

Remco,

 

Where, in the name of god did you buy that brass pot?

 

amazing job with the bricks!!  much more better than the wood ones.

 

Daniel.

Edited January 13, 2014 by harvey1847