chris watton Posted February 17 Author Share #301 Posted February 17 And here are the Adder laser cut and PE parts, not on A3 like Sherbourne, but 50x70cm sheets. Also one of the profile plans, where the 'droop' of the foredeck is clearly visible. Oboship, davec, BrochBoating and 26 others 29 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrochBoating Posted February 17 Share #302 Posted February 17 Might have to hold of and get Sherborne rather than Alert as the build looks more akin to your more recent kits? Looks great and thank you, your kits are so much better than anything this side of the pond I've seen. Can only think of one other I'd buy from much further away . thibaultron, Canute, chris watton and 2 others 5 Simon. Current builds HMS Speedy v2023 - Vanguard Models Nisha - Vanguard Models HM Gun Brig Adder - Vanguard Models Previous HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard Models Saucy Jack - Vanguard Models Polaris - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted February 17 Share #303 Posted February 17 (edited) You have come such a long way since Speedy and the decision to go at it full time. Well done! Edited February 18 by glbarlow Oboship, mtaylor, AJohnson and 6 others 9 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 17 Author Share #304 Posted February 17 2 hours ago, glbarlow said: You have such a long way since Speedy and the decision to go at it full time. Well done! Thank you, Glenn. It is strange, seems like only yesterday I decided on the name for the model range, yet also seems like forever ago! JeffT, glbarlow, rcweir and 8 others 11 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oboship Posted February 17 Share #305 Posted February 17 The prototypes and plan sheets of rigged Adder and Sherbourne look great! As for Sherbourne I repeat my Adder remarks: I guess Sherbourne will sell very well, too, and she will become very popular sooner or later because of your idea to attract newbies to the hobby. With your current range of smaller ships (kits) you certainly have set a new quality level in this market. If I were to choose one of the two new family members I probably would select Adder just because of her somewhat unusual appearance. But (UN-)fortunately I still have to complete my Speedy first, not to mention unboxed Nisha and Trial... 😉 Uwe hollowneck, chris watton, thibaultron and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted February 20 Share #306 Posted February 20 Chris, Your 3d printed small boats look awesome, what software did you use? I also like the Gunboat Adder, I hope you didn't upload the plans without altercations because these would otherwise be easy to use from a Chinese perspective. mtaylor, Canute and thibaultron 3 Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 20 Author Share #307 Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Nirvana said: Chris, Your 3d printed small boats look awesome, what software did you use? I also like the Gunboat Adder, I hope you didn't upload the plans without altercations because these would otherwise be easy to use from a Chinese perspective. The boats were done by a professional digital artist under a commission from me, so not sure about the software they used. I am always looking for people who can do such projects for me - I will need someone to colour a set of frieze work for me at some point too, so I can print them or have decals. Anyone who is interested in this, let me know. (I can do it, but it would save me a lot of time...) The plans are very low res - but am always mindful of people less scrupulous ccoyle, KentM, hollowneck and 6 others 9 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 23 Author Share #308 Posted February 23 (edited) I have just completed the final job for Adder, the box label. Now onto Sherbourne. Also now have final prices: Adder - VM/15 - £246 Sherbourne - VM/16 - £149 (For first run of kits) Edited February 23 by chris watton KARAVOKIRIS, jpalmer1970, wvdhee and 37 others 36 1 3 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 23 Share #309 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, chris watton said: Also now have final prices: Adder - VM/15 - £246 Sherbourne - VM/16 - £149 (For first run of kits) Considering what you get, those are very reasonable prices. thibaultron, hollowneck, Oboship and 8 others 11 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted February 23 Share #310 Posted February 23 43 minutes ago, ccoyle said: Considering what you get, those are very reasonable prices. Agreed, Adder especially seems good value, not much more than Trial. Ryland Craze, Canute, chris watton and 5 others 8 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 23 Author Share #311 Posted February 23 It is always a balancing act with prices. For these, I decided to subsidise them even more than I usually do, Sherbourne especially, in the hope they will attract newcomers and other modellers who haven't yet tried one of these VM kits and have no clue about the materials that make up the kits - hoping the dividend will be more people taking up the hobby, rather than being permanently put off. Prices will have to be higher in the future, though, as pear and PE brass have just risen very sharply, but I had the materials and PE before the price hikes for both Adder and Sherbourne. The cost of PE brass especially has just gone through the roof. Adder was almost abandoned last year, as I wasn’t sure how popular it would be (and the costs of producing these is great), so started to do Sherbourne instead. But as I kept looking at Adder, it grew on me, and ended up looking so much better than I had hoped. jpalmer1970, Dulrakk, allanyed and 28 others 27 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrochBoating Posted February 24 Share #312 Posted February 24 18 hours ago, chris watton said: It is always a balancing act with prices. For these, I decided to subsidise them even more than I usually do, Sherbourne especially, in the hope they will attract newcomers and other modellers who haven't yet tried one of these VM kits and have no clue about the materials that make up the kits More than reasonable. Kits I have couldn't be more different (positively) than others I've looked closely at. Is there a likely release date to try and avoid missing the first run? thibaultron, mtaylor, KentM and 1 other 4 Simon. Current builds HMS Speedy v2023 - Vanguard Models Nisha - Vanguard Models HM Gun Brig Adder - Vanguard Models Previous HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard Models Saucy Jack - Vanguard Models Polaris - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 24 Author Share #313 Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, BrochBoating said: More than reasonable. Kits I have couldn't be more different (positively) than others I've looked closely at. Is there a likely release date to try and avoid missing the first run? Thank you All being well, both will be released next month, and then that is it for a good while. No Idea, KentM, AJohnson and 7 others 8 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrochBoating Posted February 24 Share #314 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, chris watton said: All being well, both will be released next month, and then that is it for a good while. Thanks. I bet! mtaylor, AJohnson, Canute and 1 other 4 Simon. Current builds HMS Speedy v2023 - Vanguard Models Nisha - Vanguard Models HM Gun Brig Adder - Vanguard Models Previous HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard Models Saucy Jack - Vanguard Models Polaris - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 27 Author Share #315 Posted February 27 OK, plans, manual and box label all now fully complete for Sherbourne. Was up all night completing manual, and then the box label this morning. Gonna have a couple of weeks off now.. AJohnson, Ronald-V, scrubbyj427 and 31 others 30 2 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie65 Posted February 27 Share #316 Posted February 27 Enjoy your well deserved break! Kevin, chris watton, Canute and 2 others 5 Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted February 27 Author Share #317 Posted February 27 3 hours ago, Craigie65 said: Enjoy your well deserved break! Cheers! But just had over 80kg of photo etched brass sheets arrive for kits, boats and cannon (ordered last September)! So no rest for the wicked... jpalmer1970, DocRob, Javelin and 12 others 8 6 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie65 Posted February 27 Share #318 Posted February 27 😱 AJohnson, mtaylor, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted March 1 Author Share #319 Posted March 1 OK, Plans and manuals for both Adder and Sherbourne are now at the printers, and I have been told they will be delivered to me by the end of next week. So now I can open for pre orders. Adder: HM Gun Brig Adder – 1797 – VANGUARD MODELS Sherbourne: HM Armed Cutter Sherbourne – 1763 – VANGUARD MODELS mtaylor, GGibson, uss frolick and 31 others 28 2 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted March 1 Share #320 Posted March 1 (edited) Good luck for your 2024 releases Chris. Preorder in for “Adder”; though by decree of the Admiral mine will be called “Sparkler” from the 15 names available, as she likes that name better. 😁. At least that one was at Copenhagen…. Edited March 5 by AJohnson Ryland Craze, ccoyle, thibaultron and 4 others 7 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitan Posted March 1 Share #321 Posted March 1 Thanks, and I've just placed a pre-order for Sherbourne. Ryland Craze, mtaylor, chris watton and 4 others 7 Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyuti Posted March 1 Share #322 Posted March 1 Chriss order ín for VM 15 and 16 plus the last two to complete a full set of all 16 of your wonderful kíts. Hope the new ones fly off the shelves Kind Regards Guy BenD, Ryland Craze, Pitan and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted March 7 Share #323 Posted March 7 Sorry for being a Besserwisser, but I just noted an anomaly on your webpage when checking out the latest releases.... instead of "HMS Flirt - 1782" it has been listed as "Order 1:64 HMS Flirt". And it also has a odd price range since you could order block through it. Order 1:64 HMS Flirt – VANGUARD MODELS I know you are a perfectionist so I thought I would point it out 😛 thibaultron, chris watton and Canute 3 Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 7 Share #324 Posted March 7 6 minutes ago, Vane said: Sorry for being a Besserwisser, but I just noted an anomaly on your webpage when checking out the latest releases.... instead of "HMS Flirt - 1782" it has been listed as "Order 1:64 HMS Flirt". And it also has a odd price range since you could order block through it. Order 1:64 HMS Flirt – VANGUARD MODELS I know you are a perfectionist so I thought I would point it out 😛 This is because the product has more than one main kit variable (usually Master Shipwright kit editions). All variables can be ordered from one page instead of having multiple pages. Canute, chris watton, mtaylor and 1 other 4 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted March 7 Share #325 Posted March 7 Yes, but in this case the price range goes from just buying separate blocks to the MS edition. If I understand correctly, there are also various of blocks available to other ships and they dont have it on the same page. My point was simply that Flirt seem to be listed abit differently than the other kits that seem to follow a certain style. Canute, mtaylor and thibaultron 3 Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted March 7 Share #326 Posted March 7 It is. This was one of the first kits I added to the site, after the site was initially built. The guy who set it up initially, created a rat’s nest of illogical decisions. At that point I had to continue until the site was totally rebuilt. That is a legacy page now as MS kits aren’t offered now. One day, when I have time, it’ll be reworked. Kevin, mtaylor, thibaultron and 2 others 5 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted March 7 Author Share #327 Posted March 7 The website will always be a work in progress, as it is constantly updated and more products added - it is quite the job to keep on top of it. I would like a tick list for each kit on their product page, so you could tick the kit and however many extras are associated with that kit, but all of this takes time, and as James mentions, the site he inherited was a complete mess and has taken a lot of time to sort out from the ground up. Canute, Kevin, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted March 7 Author Share #328 Posted March 7 Just an update on what I am doing right now, and what is planned for the next year. I did mean to have a couple of weeks off after Sherbourne and Adder, but cannot help myself, so started designs for the 17th kit. The next two kits will be medium size. The one I am working on now, once designed and plans drawn, will be built by Jim, along photos and text for manual. This then frees me up to concentrate on the 18th medium kit – so after a very large kit like Indy, there will have been 3 mediums and 3 smaller kits done. After this, the 19th kit will be large, and hopefully, we will have moved to larger premises by then, as space is a major issue now – so another very large kit like Indy is out of the question until we have more space. Also slowly building back up my stock of materials, pear sheet especially, and photo etched sheets for each of the kits. Finally, I already mentioned this, I would like to commission someone to produce more 3-d printed boat files for me – if you feel you can/want do this, let me know. Thukydides, Ronald-V, Canute and 20 others 23 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald-V Posted March 7 Share #329 Posted March 7 (edited) Great to hear your plans! What do you considering "medium size"? The Flirts and DoK or also Sphinx size? Just wondering Edited March 7 by mugje AJohnson, Canute, chris watton and 2 others 5 Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrochBoating Posted March 7 Share #330 Posted March 7 1 hour ago, chris watton said: I did mean to have a couple of weeks off after Sherbourne and Adder, but cannot help myself, so started designs for the 17th kit. The next two kits will be medium size. The one I am working on now, once designed and plans drawn, will be built by Jim, along photos and text for manual. This then frees me up to concentrate on the 18th medium kit – so after a very large kit like Indy, there will have been 3 mediums and 3 smaller kits done. After this, the 19th kit will be large, and hopefully, we will have moved to larger premises by then, as space is a major issue now – so another very large kit like Indy is out of the question until we have more space. Good to hear your plans. Hoping to order Sherborne and Adder at the end of the month Canute, chris watton, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Simon. Current builds HMS Speedy v2023 - Vanguard Models Nisha - Vanguard Models HM Gun Brig Adder - Vanguard Models Previous HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard Models Saucy Jack - Vanguard Models Polaris - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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