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Posted

No major milestones but time for an update.

 

Planking continues.  The mishap with the flying paint jar on the port side was eradicated by removing most of the planking on that side, including 2 of the simulated sheaves, and starting over:

 

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The starboard side is at the same point.  All of the sweep port openings and gun deck gun ports are completed:

 

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I'll be working my way up to the forecastle and QD with the planking.  Then a good sanding before I add the second layer of planking to the main and channel wales.

 

 

 

 

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Good pics Augie, she looks crisp and clean....I know from reading ahead on the Syren the gunport thing is much more complicated than what I am used to. Expect lots of questions when I get there!

Robbyn

If you risk nothing, you risk everything!

 

Current builds

Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0

AL San Francisco II

Mordaunt (Euro Model)

Completed Builds

18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro
 

In the closet

Battle Station

Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)

 

Posted

Looks like a success Augie.  How did you remove the planking or get the glue to desolve without damage?

John

Current Current Builds:

US Brig Niagara on my website

FINISHED BUILD LOGS:

New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website:  http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html

C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/

USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/

 

website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com

website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com

website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com

Posted

super update Augie.....the planking looks great.  you recovered quite nicely ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

Hi Augie, Yes practice does make one better doesn’t it! Sorry you had to do the

“do over” but it came out so very nice. Well done. :) 

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

Posted

That latest update shows very clearly your skill and craftsmanship Augie! She is looking just fantastic. And others have said, practice obviously makes perfect ;)

 

Well played Sir!

Posted

Gee, maybe I should rip it off and do it still again!!!!  No, I'm tired of notches.  I know Wes mentioned in a recent update (on his beautiful hatches for his Connie) that he had cut some slivers down to 1mm.  I got a couple at 0.8 :D  :D

 

John-  I'm a thick CA guy when it comes to planking.  Easy to handle, neat and doesn't penetrate right through the wood (in this case, basswood).  Holds like iron after 30 seconds so there's no fooling with clamps.  One or two copious applications of acetone will soften it enough to remove a plank.  Then a sharp exacto blade, a little sanding, brute force and superstition and you're back to square one.  Oh, make sure to extinguish the 'smoking lamp'.

 

Thanks for all the well-wishes.  Hoping to get back to a normal pace now.  Frankly, November was a month I'd just as soon forget.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Augie,

 

Have you ever tried hot melt for planking? I know that sounds goofy but it is what I used for my Victory bow section. They were shorter planks for the most part but if one can stand the heat(the glue does burn fingers for a sec.) it certainly holds .....

 

Thick CA is also in my array of adhesives.

 

Your humble acolyte,

 

Jim

Completed      Robert E Lee, Misisssippi riverboat               

 

Completed,  HMS Victory Bow Section

 

Completed,  Wells Fargo Stagecoach...Picasa album.... 

 

Completed,  Lackawanna tugboat converted to private yacht...

 

Completed:  Sopwith Camel, 1:16 Scale, Model Airways...at another location...

 

Completed:  1961 Ferrari F-1 Sharknose

 

Completed: (sorta)  OcCre BR-18 Locomotive

 

Completed: 1/35 Pz.KPfw.III

 

Completed: Allerton Steam Pumper circa 1869

Posted

She looks awesome Augie. I may have to switch from PVA to CA for planking based how well you like using it.

Take care and let's put this month behind us.

Regards,

Larry

----------------------------------------------------

Current Build

US Brig Niagara

Completed Builds

George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat

Future Builds

18th Century Longboat by MS

HM Cutter Cheerful

Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel

 

If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges :)

Posted

very nice recovery Augie :)

 

i tend to use too much glue and PVA wipes of easy, but it would certainly cut down on the waiting game with the thick CA :)

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

Posted

I only mentioned the thick CA because John asked.  Like anything else, be VERY sure to try it first before you commit to using it on your pride and joy.  And remember you need to have your subject plank pre-bent and spiled (if necessary) so that it is really ready to go.  There is zero time available for playing around.

 

One last thing (and here I risk an avalanche of 'heresy' comments), I really believe the thick is less volatile and emits less fumes so it might be less irritating for those sensitive to CA vapors. 

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Thanks for the advice on the thick CA Augie. I generally avoid using CA at all if I can, as I'm one of those affected by the fumes. I might try giving the thick stuff a go to see if it makes a difference (fume-wise).

Posted

Well done, Augie.  And good advice on pre-bending the planks.   Ok.. Novemeber is like over in 30 some hours so you only have to hold out for a bit longer.  December will be better. 

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Very nice Augie. I always learn something from your post ;)!

 

 

Bill

Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale.

 

 

Current build;  Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre

 

Current build;    H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L

                                    

 

 

Posted

Hmmm thick set CA.....I know I am hyper sensitive to the stuff and try to avoid it all costs because I know I will be down for 2-3 days after the first whiff of fumes. I did break down and purchase a painter's respirator mask with filters for chemicals....I am guessing that the reason behind the CA is you can move rather quickly on the planking?

I am not sure I am confident enough in my planking abilities to give that a try....yet :P

Robbyn

If you risk nothing, you risk everything!

 

Current builds

Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0

AL San Francisco II

Mordaunt (Euro Model)

Completed Builds

18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro
 

In the closet

Battle Station

Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)

 

Posted

PVA is a lot easier to work with Robbyn.  And more forgiving.  I'm just used to using the CA's from my airplane work.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Augie,

 

The planking is looking really good.   One thing to watch is when you are ready to place the second layer of the wales (both of them) on top of the first layer.  If your planking run isnt identical at the stern where the planks run off the hull,  dont just follow that first layer with the wales.  Make some adjustments on one side or the other so the wales are even port to starboard.  Should they not be even it will cause you some problems when trying to get the quarter galleries built and the PE decorations on.   The same is true at the bow when it comes time to make the headrails much later.

 

Try and measure down from the cap rail on both sides after taking the measurements from the plans.  You have a bit of wiggle room there if you need to adjust them to make them even.  Just giving you something else to worry about!!!! and I hope you find it helpful.

 

Chuck

Posted

Thanks for the advice, Chuck.  Always appreciated.  Took me a second to understand it but thinking of a stern-on or head-on view makes it clear.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Thanks Augie, I appreciate the explanation, always learning.....didn't know how to disolve CA.......

John

Current Current Builds:

US Brig Niagara on my website

FINISHED BUILD LOGS:

New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website:  http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html

C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/

USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/

 

website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com

website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com

website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com

Posted

Hi Augie:

 

Great work - the sheaves look particularly good. 

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

Posted

Thanks, Hamilton.  Planking up there is almost done now and they look even better.  I can't take credit for the idea...that was Chucks.  But Mobbsie did something similar on his Aggie and it's really a nice touch. 

 

Should have an update in a day or 3.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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