ChrisLBren Posted December 20, 2014 #721 Posted December 20, 2014 Looking good Mark - go with the Pear if you can afford it - much better wood in terms of workability and less grain. Chris mtaylor 1 Quote
newbuilder101 Posted December 20, 2014 #722 Posted December 20, 2014 Beautiful Mark! I'm sure whatever wood you chose, it will turn out wonderful! mtaylor 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
NenadM Posted December 20, 2014 #723 Posted December 20, 2014 Fantastic work, shame you have to hide it with planking. As for the wood to use Cherry will look good and provide a contrast to the frames. David B I agree with David Great work on Her mtaylor 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic
cog Posted December 20, 2014 #724 Posted December 20, 2014 Mark, Looking marvelous. A milestone is always good to reflect upon. Choose the wood which makes you feel at ease with, and gives you the right feeling mtaylor 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
mtaylor Posted December 20, 2014 Author #725 Posted December 20, 2014 thanks for all the comments and "likes". mighty sweet looking frame Mark can you still get planking from Jeff? are you planking her from the bottom up.......and does this mean she'll be leaving the jig? congratz Mark.....this is quite a milestone! No need to buy more wood at this point. I have a nice stash. Fully planked, sir, but it won't come out of the jig until the exterior planking is finished and may leave it there while I do much of the internal work. It makes a nice way to hold it. Right now, it looks like these will be the woods... Ebony - wales (but not all main, only the top strake), rails, stern above the windows, the trim where the counter meets the hull. Quarter gallery trim. I'm also thinking the yards but that may change to something with an ebony stain. Swiss Pear - external planking. Boxwood - decking and carvings, trim strips on the stern above and below the windows and the window framing. Also, quarter galleries. Possibly the masts but that's subject to change. Also maybe gratings, not sure just yet. Pear - coamings, pin rails, bitts, head rails, capstans and possibly some on the galleries. Silver Maple - ceiling and inner bulwarks. Probably gratings, not sure. Holly - figurehead with hopefully ebony for hooves and eyes, as it is a unicorn. I'm undecided still on the gun carriages (maybe pear or swiss pear? I also have some nice walnut that might work.) Same goes for the Great Cabin... maybe boxwood or pear for the trim fittings. Need to think on what to put in there as furniture, if any and also things like buckets, gun handling items.... we'll see. Anyway back to figuring out what I need to mill and how much. And more importantly, how to do the milling. Rustyj, CaptainSteve, src and 7 others 10 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Piet Posted December 21, 2014 #726 Posted December 21, 2014 WOW, that's looking mighty fine Mark! Congrets with this milestone and now planking. Am looking forward seeing you progress with that fun job. I love planking! Cheers, mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
Remcohe Posted December 21, 2014 #727 Posted December 21, 2014 Congrats Mark, she's coming together great! Remco mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
mtaylor Posted December 22, 2014 Author #728 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the "likes and" comments. Just a break from building here while dimensioning my Swiss Pear supply for this. For hull planking, I'm need 4 sizes of wood: 1/32" X 1/8", 3/32" X 3/16", 1/16" X 1/8" and 1/16" X 3/16". I have an ample supply of planking wood that is +1/16" X +1/8" and +3/32 X +3/16" that I'm converting down. I've been testing out my technique on this and sorting things out. For the first batch of 1/32" X 1/8", what I'll be doing is running it through the thicknesser to get it down to 1/32" (dead on exact) and then running it thought the table saw with a 230T blade to get the exact 1/8" I want.. For those on metric, 1/32" is equal to about 1mm. I give the raw dimensions as "+" because they're all a tad oversize and the oversize seems to be inconsistent. I'm attaching two pics of the saw with the wood being run through it. You can see that very little wood is being removed and also how I'm keeping my big paws away from the blade. I hope to have planking underway pretty soon. In fact, maybe tomorrow, I'll take a break from dimensioning and do the counter. Hmmm... I need some ebony for the stern above the lights so I'll have to do that also. Overall view: Close up of blade area: Edited December 22, 2014 by mtaylor shipmodel, WackoWolf, cog and 16 others 19 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
mtaylor Posted December 22, 2014 Author #729 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Oh crap... I just noticed I have the blade in backwards..... Edited December 22, 2014 by mtaylor Sjors, trippwj and cog 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
WackoWolf Posted December 22, 2014 #730 Posted December 22, 2014 ROFLMAO. Like no one ever did that before. shipmodel, GLakie, michael mott and 2 others 5 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
GLakie Posted December 22, 2014 #731 Posted December 22, 2014 LOL! Saves wear and tear on those cutting teeth though eh? I like your home-made feather-boards. Did Jim tool up the miter track adapter for you? Hope everybody has a Happy Holiday Cheers mtaylor 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
GLakie Posted December 22, 2014 #732 Posted December 22, 2014 LOL! Saves wear and tear on those cutting teeth though eh? I like your home-made feather-boards. Did Jim tool up the miter track adapter for you? Hope everybody has a Happy Holiday Cheers mtaylor 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
mtaylor Posted December 22, 2014 Author #733 Posted December 22, 2014 George, I don't have a Jim Saw...those are from MicroMark as I have their saw. Hmm.. I'm wondering if it would save the cost of blades to run them backwards? :D augie and WackoWolf 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
CaptainSteve Posted December 22, 2014 #734 Posted December 22, 2014 ... would also save on the cost of wood. GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
cog Posted December 22, 2014 #735 Posted December 22, 2014 Nah, you would neither save on blades nor on wood. The blades would wear faster as the hardened teeth would be last to touch wood, and the wood would be unusable due to the ugly grooves and most probably a wobbly cutting stroke ... GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted December 22, 2014 #736 Posted December 22, 2014 Very interesting solution for keeping your fingers away from the blade. Did you made this by yoursel? GLakie 1 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Canute Posted December 22, 2014 #737 Posted December 22, 2014 Beats gnawing on them ala the beaver. But, not by much! michael mott, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
Chuck Seiler Posted December 22, 2014 #738 Posted December 22, 2014 1/32" planking...yowza!! Mighty thin...not much there for sanding. Where will those planks go? GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop
mtaylor Posted December 22, 2014 Author #739 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Thank you for the "likes" and comments even when I've done a bone-headed stunt like that. It keeps me honest and on my toes. Very interesting solution for keeping your fingers away from the blade. Did you made this by yoursel? Christian, The modified fence idea came from Grant and Danny and fences are just a bit of creative usage. So.. no... I stole all the ideas. 1/32" planking...yowza!! Mighty thin...not much there for sanding. Where will those planks go? Chuck, They go from the main wales up and there's one wide one for the garboard strake. Hopefully, I won't need a lot of sanding. I'll recheck the fairing after I'm done cutting as I've found one small area that needs a tweak in the fairing. I hope everyone has a great Holiday and in the meantime, I'll keep thicknessing and cutting for now. Edited December 22, 2014 by mtaylor BANYAN, GLakie, michael mott and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GLakie Posted December 22, 2014 #740 Posted December 22, 2014 I hope you and yours have a great Holiday as well Mark! Cheers WackoWolf and mtaylor 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
AnobiumPunctatum Posted December 23, 2014 #741 Posted December 23, 2014 Thank you for the "likes" and comments even when I've done a bone-headed stunt like that. It keeps me honest and on my toes. Christian, The modified fence idea came from Grant and Danny and fences are just a bit of creative usage. So.. no... I stole all the ideas. No problem, I think I will make another ripp-off mtaylor 1 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
BANYAN Posted December 23, 2014 #742 Posted December 23, 2014 Errors or not Mark, that's still a nice build and informative log. Best wishes for s a safe and happy festive season. cheers Pat mtaylor 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
rdsaplala Posted December 24, 2014 #743 Posted December 24, 2014 Hi Mark, Just catching up with my favorite builds, it seems I have a lot of catching up to do Wow! Licorned is looking superb Sir, that is one mighty fine ship, lovely lines and lovely looking stern! Sjors and mtaylor 2 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo
mtaylor Posted December 25, 2014 Author #744 Posted December 25, 2014 So who would have thought that for the last two days I've been running around in a short-sleeved shirt outside. It's been almost 70 degrees F. Now it's more normal, raining and In the 40's. Which means, the sawpits have been busy. Christian, use whatever is useful to you. Pat, thank you for the nice comment. Aldo.. I've missed seeing you around. I hope you're doing better. And thanks for the nice comment. George and everyone else, may Christmas be filled with love and warmth and the new year with good things and good times. cabrapente, egkb, jaerschen and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
michael mott Posted December 25, 2014 #745 Posted December 25, 2014 Mark you can blame the tooth issue on the balmy weather, that you had a bit of sunstroke Merry Christmas Michael mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
mtaylor Posted December 29, 2014 Author #746 Posted December 29, 2014 First bit of planking is done with Swiss Pear. Just the counter so far. I've hung the stern post and rudder blank for position and to make sure I made the hole right. There will be a bit of ebony trim over the exposed yellowheart after the rest of the planking goes one. And "above" the counter and below the lights I'll be putting in the shaped trim strip after the rest of the stern has been planked. All in all, I'm pretty pleased. src, DORIS, popeye the sailor and 38 others 41 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
augie Posted December 29, 2014 #747 Posted December 29, 2014 Love that Swiss Pear GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
GLakie Posted December 29, 2014 #748 Posted December 29, 2014 That swiss pear makes for some nice planking Mark. Will you be using the pear for all of it? Hope you and yours have a safe and Happy New Year! Cheers CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Landlubber Mike Posted December 29, 2014 #749 Posted December 29, 2014 Beautiful work Mark. I love the swiss pear. Hope you and your family had a wonderful holiday GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
NMBROOK Posted December 29, 2014 #750 Posted December 29, 2014 Lovely work Mark I can only echo what has been said,you won't regret using pear Kind Regards Nigel mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
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