DORIS Posted May 9, 2017 #1 Posted May 9, 2017 Hello everyone, a few years ago, I finished my most beautiful ship - Sovereign of the Seas and I wished to find another similarly beautiful sailing ship which I would be able to build. There are plenty of glorious boats, but only for a few of them there are avalialbe good plans and exact information. I decided to create and build a card model of Royal Katherine from 1664. I do not have exact plans so I will proceed according to other plans of ships from 17th century - HMS Sussex and HMS Prince and use information from professional literature as well. I like great challenges and connection of fun and education, so I am looking forward to this project very much. The model will be created in the scale of 1/55, so there is an oportunity to create many details in a higher level of quality. During creation of previous models I have received many valuable and professional information about sailing ships, their construction and fitting from one of the greatest experts - Captain K.L. who has taught me a lot and I will also use his advice here. The main build log you can find here: http://modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=110763 docidle, Omega1234, Dee_Dee and 28 others 31 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
DORIS Posted May 9, 2017 Author #2 Posted May 9, 2017 Hull construction All parts are made of card and glued together to the appropriate thickness. The shapes of bulkheads are based on HMS Sussex's plans, but I found there many inaccuracies and mistakes!! http://modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=110763&start=30#p1990405 So it was necessary to modify proportions and make correction. Other parts of the hull are taken from plans HMS Prince. John Allen, Gerhardvienna, Omega1234 and 34 others 37 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
DORIS Posted May 9, 2017 Author #3 Posted May 9, 2017 Redesigning some bulkheads on the bow: EricWilliamMarshall, cristikc, riverboat and 48 others 51 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted May 9, 2017 #4 Posted May 9, 2017 G'day Doris I'm so glad that you are back! I'll have front row centre in the production with baited breath. Havagooday Greg thibaultron and FrankWouts 2 Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...
Eddie Posted May 9, 2017 #5 Posted May 9, 2017 Hey howya goin Doris mate, I'll be following along with this build. mtaylor, WackoWolf, Vivian Galad and 5 others 8 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
DORIS Posted May 9, 2017 Author #6 Posted May 9, 2017 Hull planking - first layer - all is made of cardboard: Vivian Galad, Omega1234, Rudolf and 41 others 44 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
DORIS Posted May 9, 2017 Author #7 Posted May 9, 2017 Hull construction and gunports placement: michael mott, Hubac's Historian, riverboat and 57 others 60 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
shipmodel Posted May 9, 2017 #8 Posted May 9, 2017 Hi Doris - Great to see you back in the shipyard. What you do with cardboard is truly spectacular. I will be following along with great interest. Be well Dan Vivian Galad, mtaylor, Anja and 6 others 9 Quote Current build -Khufu solar barge, c. 2,560 BCE, a cross-section model at 1:10 scale Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration, SS Mayaguez (c.1975) Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein
michael mott Posted May 9, 2017 #9 Posted May 9, 2017 Hello Doris it is great to be able to see another one of your models take shape. Your skill at turning such a humble material into very elegant models is a joy to watch. Michael Vivian Galad, Jack12477, Mirabell61 and 9 others 13 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
laarmada Posted May 9, 2017 #10 Posted May 9, 2017 Hello Doris, Is very nice to see another model of you. If you are lookimg for information about 17th century ships there is The Restoration Warship from Richard Endsor, the book is beautifull illustrated and there are several plans of HMS Lennox maybe is helpful for you. Regards. mtaylor, Piet, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote
popeye the sailor Posted May 9, 2017 #11 Posted May 9, 2017 so happy to see your back to the table! pulling up a chair to watch another of your masterpieces come together what a sweet looking hull! Omega1234, thibaultron, Anja and 6 others 9 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
albert Posted May 9, 2017 #12 Posted May 9, 2017 Hello Doris, yours work is fantastic. FrankWouts, thibaultron, BETAQDAVE and 5 others 8 Quote
druxey Posted May 9, 2017 #13 Posted May 9, 2017 Delighted to see you return, Doris. That will be a rather large model! Looking forward to seeing your progress on this beauty. Anja, Mirabell61, RichardG and 8 others 11 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Mirabell61 Posted May 9, 2017 #14 Posted May 9, 2017 Hello Doris, I was missing your posts over the last months and hope you may find time again to share your brilliant work with your MSW fellow members. I am with Druxey and Michael with my compliments and gladly look forward to your progress with this new project. Es ist wunderbar ! Nils FrankWouts, BETAQDAVE, Anja and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
Dziadeczek Posted May 9, 2017 #15 Posted May 9, 2017 Congrats on your model choice! It is a beautiful ship indeed!!! Thomas WackoWolf, coxswain, Richard Griffith and 17 others 21 Quote
WackoWolf Posted May 9, 2017 #16 Posted May 9, 2017 Glad your back. I have my chair all set up and waiting. DORIS, Piet, Vivian Galad and 4 others 7 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
AndrewNaylor Posted May 9, 2017 #17 Posted May 9, 2017 Wonderful Doris You have found another beautiful ship to build in front of your spell bound audiance , Hours of fantastic viewing ahead for one and all. Welcome back and thank you so much Andy WackoWolf, DORIS, Vivian Galad and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build HM Granado CC Past builds HMS Chatham CC, HM Convulsion CC, Duke William German Kit, Fair American LSS, The Wright Flyer MS
Elmer Cornish Posted May 9, 2017 #18 Posted May 9, 2017 awesome !! work,looking forward to the build thx Doris, zoly99sask, FrankWouts, Vivian Galad and 5 others 8 Quote
Piet Posted May 10, 2017 #19 Posted May 10, 2017 So good seeing you back. Please allow me to join you with this fantastic build. Cheers, Vivian Galad, zoly99sask, Elmer Cornish and 4 others 7 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
Vivian Galad Posted May 10, 2017 #20 Posted May 10, 2017 Hi Doris!! I couldn´t have come back on a better time! To see your ships again is such a delight and, more than that, great inspiration. Taking a seat to follow and surely be mesmerized by your talent. Elmer Cornish, DORIS, FrankWouts and 7 others 10 Quote Current: Red Dragon (modified) by Vivian Galad - Artesania Latina - 1:60 Oseberg (modified) by Vivian Galad - Amati (1:50)Cocca Veneta by Vivian Galad - Corel - 1:70 Finished 15th Century Latin Caravel kit model from Artimanha models
Hubac's Historian Posted May 10, 2017 #21 Posted May 10, 2017 Hi Doris, I've wanted to witness your process for some time! I am so excited to see you build the Katherine, and I will definitely be following along. Your work is really exceptional! Regards, Marc thibaultron, Elmer Cornish, FrankWouts and 3 others 6 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
fnick Posted May 11, 2017 #22 Posted May 11, 2017 Hi Doris Welcome back! Looking forward to another beautiful build! Nick thibaultron, Piet, FrankWouts and 2 others 5 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
DORIS Posted May 11, 2017 Author #23 Posted May 11, 2017 Dear friends, I appreciate your kind words a lot and advice. Thank you very much. That is a great honour for me. I have to say I was thinking about HMS Royal Katherine for a long time. Finally I have found the courage to start this large project and would like to share it with you... Here you can see the complete stern of the model, some gunports and other details on the hull were changed to be more accurate and corresponding to the position in the painting of the real ship. Piet, Omega1234, John Allen and 30 others 33 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
DORIS Posted May 11, 2017 Author #24 Posted May 11, 2017 And here I have started with lower deck and center part reinforcement. The hull - although it is made of cardboard - is very solid and heavy - it weights more than 3 kg. jct, Piet, FrankWouts and 33 others 36 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
Sailor1234567890 Posted May 11, 2017 #25 Posted May 11, 2017 How long does the card last once the model is completed? Seems to me if you're not careful with storing it, it could deteriorate easily. Beautiful work you've done there. Piet, DORIS, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote
DORIS Posted May 11, 2017 Author #26 Posted May 11, 2017 The deck in the central part of the ship is covered by tapes from plastic foils, that I use on all my card models to imitate wooden look.. The inner parts of the model are already covered with a second layer of carton and bases for the upper decks. I have also a handsome helper who makes me a companion during model-builing. dj.bobo, Mirabell61, Tecko and 34 others 37 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted May 11, 2017 #27 Posted May 11, 2017 G'day Doris It's very interesting so far. Are you going to do your wonderful interior in this ship as you did in the Royal Caroline? Did you say it's almost 3kg? That's quite heavy considering it is made from cardboard. As I said before, can't wait for more logs from you. Havagooday Greg FrankWouts and thibaultron 2 Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...
DORIS Posted May 11, 2017 Author #28 Posted May 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Sailor1234567890 said: How long does the card last once the model is completed? Seems to me if you're not careful with storing it, it could deteriorate easily. Beautiful work you've done there. It takes me sometimes more than 2-3 years, than the model is finished. There is no problem with these card models, I use high quality and efficient impregnation, so the models are similarly durable as wooden. At home i have more than 20 years old card models and they still look like new. ************ Here you can see the finished second layer of planking, made of cardboard as well.I use various thickness of this material - from 0,5mm to 2mm. Piet, cog, Anja and 37 others 40 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted May 11, 2017 #29 Posted May 11, 2017 I've also got 2 hand raised cocktails. I wouldn't let them near my model incase their beaks start to chew. One is a girl and she's is only for me and the other is a boy and he will go to anyone. He's a huge talker..... about 50 words in his vocabulary and he whistles 2 songs. Greg FrankWouts and thibaultron 2 Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...
DORIS Posted May 11, 2017 Author #30 Posted May 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Greg the peg leg sailor said: G'day Doris It's very interesting so far. Are you going to do your wonderful interior in this ship as you did in the Royal Caroline? Did you say it's almost 3kg? That's quite heavy considering it is made from cardboard. As I said before, can't wait for more logs from you. Havagooday Greg Hello Greg, of course, I am going to make interior sections of the model (upper decks) - in the high level of detail. That is my favourite part of work. Best regards, Doris RdK, mtaylor, BETAQDAVE and 5 others 8 Quote Doris Current build: HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card
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