DesertWolf Posted January 9, 2014 Share #751 Posted January 9, 2014 Hi Augie There's nothing better than grabbing a couple of beers, sitting down and reading your build log front to back. It is crammed with so much practical info and humor (...and tool endorsements ). This built is another masterpiece! texxn5, mtaylor and trippwj 3 Quote Wolf Current build : San Francisco II (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share #752 Posted January 9, 2014 Thanks, Wolf. We try to keep it mildly entertaining while including any info we can keeping in mind it's not a master class in scratch building. Personally, I enjoy reading your San Francisco log just as much. Your work is 12X's neater than mine and the colors are just fantastic. Can't wait to see the completed ship's boat you're scratching. Enjoy summer down there! texxn5, edmay and mtaylor 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share #753 Posted January 9, 2014 With the 300 hour mark just passed, thought I'd update with her new look: Work on the upper hull is completed (for the moment) with the painting up to the rails. Same process as the wales. Now, there are some moldings that will be attached later on. Toward that end, some scrapers are provided with the kit to put a bead in the 1/16" square basswood moldings: I was a little pessimistic about this process at first. But here's a sample of four strips treated with the scrapers then stained: Looks like these will actually work !! I'll hold off installing them for now so as not to damage them during the next step..... ............. planking the lower hull. Need to do a little reading and planning before I begin. This is NOT my strong suit --- but then little falls into that category. For this hull, Chuck has included a 'spiling jig' to do some edge bending so I need to work with that for a bit. So it'll be a while......... But I shall be watching everyone's progress So STAY THE COURSE ! Tigerdvr, gjdale, DesertWolf and 22 others 25 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted January 9, 2014 Share #754 Posted January 9, 2014 Oh...I like the new look! Best of luck on planking the lower hull. I'm sure it will look great! augie 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 9, 2014 Share #755 Posted January 9, 2014 Wow, those little strippers worked really good. Those kind of tools would really be handy for a lot of things. Very good Augie......geez what you can do with a mill.....I know they came with it, but you could make some too.....looks good.... augie 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 9, 2014 Share #756 Posted January 9, 2014 Can you tell us more about the spiling jig? I am interested in improving my process. augie 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted January 9, 2014 Share #757 Posted January 9, 2014 She dresses up very nicely Augie! As for the lower planking, I'm sure you will do an outstanding job. Between your skills and Chuck's jig/guidance, there can be little doubt as to the outcome. augie 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted January 10, 2014 Share #758 Posted January 10, 2014 Very nicely painted upper works Augie! But now the real test begins! Just remember to trim your prespiled planks to fit your hull, it won't be the same as chucks, you have to adjust every plank! Keep your garboard low at the last bulkhead before the stem or your planking will ride up. Ben augie and Rustyj 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted January 10, 2014 Share #759 Posted January 10, 2014 Looking Good Augie... Of course those scrapers work!!! Sometimes the etching goes too long and the point is a little dull. But for soft woods it works a treat. I have to deepen the grooves for harder woods. You will notice many extra profiles on the sheet. You wont need then for the kit,...I just thought I would throw in several extras. They come in real handy. SHH!!! Dont tell EXPO gjdale, texxn5, Shazmira and 5 others 8 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted January 10, 2014 Share #760 Posted January 10, 2014 OMG Augie, she is absolutely stunning!!! Your work on her is impeccable so far, I am incredibly impressed! augie 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted January 10, 2014 Share #761 Posted January 10, 2014 She looks really good Augie, you've done a great job. Andy augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 10, 2014 Share #762 Posted January 10, 2014 Great work, Augie. How about a tutorial on "Augie planking"? I can use the motivation and inspiration. augie and Sjors 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted January 10, 2014 Share #763 Posted January 10, 2014 Great work Augie, And just what Mark is saying....planking tutorial please I also have a little bit of planking in front of me augie 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted January 10, 2014 Share #764 Posted January 10, 2014 After 3 weeks of traveling I am just catching up with your build log again. Your Confederacy looks GREAT! Well done! Thomas augie 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j21896 Posted January 10, 2014 Share #765 Posted January 10, 2014 Hi Augie, She's looking just gorgeous! Fabulous work, and so fast too! For planking the lower hull, you've probably already read it, but Chuck's tutorial on the subject is the gold standard in my opinion. (I sure wish I had it before I did my planking ) It's in the downloads section on the main MSW page here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/Framing_and_Planking/Lining%20Off%20your%20hull%20for%20planking.pdf Robert augie 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 10, 2014 Share #766 Posted January 10, 2014 Great work Augie, looking good! -Bug augie 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share #767 Posted January 12, 2014 In response to several inquiries about the 'spiling jig', here's what we're talking about: In the photo, the jig itself (and perhaps we should call it an 'edge bending jig') are the pieces I have painted black (3). They have been glued securely to an old 1" thick cutting board. This jig is supplied with the kit and the curvature determined by Chuck. The 3 planks in the jig are 1/8 x 1/16". Each had been tapered along the last 4" (1/64" at the tip), soaked and then placed in the jig to dry. I put a brick on top to hold them down tight as they want to twist a bit. The jig is the same thickness as the planks. Below the jig are 3 edge bent, tapered planks all dried and ready to go. These are naturally all for the bow and shall go below the wales some 5 or so planks below it. For the upper planks we used the regular bending jig pictured back early in this log. I was pleasantly surprised to see that this degree of edge bending was possible and reproducible. It's basswood, by the way. I'm currently preparing planks and lining out the hull. Should start planking in a few days. The slight delay is being caused by looking for a replacement cutting board (Admiral's orders) !!! DBorgens, riverboat, kiwiron and 17 others 20 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted January 12, 2014 Share #768 Posted January 12, 2014 Very interesting!! Are you using the technique Chuck uses in his tutorial on spiling? If so, what width planks are you using? Frank augie 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share #769 Posted January 12, 2014 That is a very intriguing jig. I wonder where it was when I was planking....good lesson for next time....looks nice Augie, very uniform.... augie 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCraig Posted January 12, 2014 Share #770 Posted January 12, 2014 Thank you for showing the spiling jig Augie. I am sure this can be used for many planking applications. Great progress on your build! augie 1 Quote -Craig It's never too late to turn the tide... Current Build- King of the Mississippi- Artesania Latina- 1:80 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted January 13, 2014 Share #771 Posted January 13, 2014 Hi Augie, I'm impressed the jig was included with the kit. Do you know if this occurs with other kits or was this an exception. Moonbug and augie 2 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 13, 2014 Share #772 Posted January 13, 2014 I have some wide pine boards to make my jigs on.........I find it much safer augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted January 13, 2014 Share #773 Posted January 13, 2014 Crikey, Augie, you've certainly been busy while I've been away. She's looking first class! John augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share #774 Posted January 13, 2014 Larry - This jig is new to me. There wasn't one with Syren. Frank - Since I'm using the kit-supplied 1/8 x 1/16" wood I won't be doing actual spiling from wider planks (although I may work in some 3/16 in the stern). New cutting board has been procured (along with dinner, no flowers). Seas have subsided newbuilder101, popeye the sailor, Sjors and 8 others 11 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted January 13, 2014 Share #775 Posted January 13, 2014 All caught up now.... some really nice progress my friend. Really clean - love clean! Really nice, and now you are spiling! (spilling?) I haven't got there yet, still going with the force a plank method Kudos to you!! augie 1 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 13, 2014 Share #776 Posted January 13, 2014 Cool Jig. Is it common for jigs such as that to be included in a kit? - Bug Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 14, 2014 Share #777 Posted January 14, 2014 Thanks Augie... thought perhaps I was missing something there... - Bug Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldpaperone Posted January 15, 2014 Share #778 Posted January 15, 2014 Regarding the planking around the gunports (if one wanted to get extra accurate/detailed): - would have the Confederacy planking followed the same pattern as the HMS Winchelsea (Chuck build) ? Quote Current Project USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambsbk Posted January 16, 2014 Share #779 Posted January 16, 2014 As always Augie: really first class. augie 1 Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvchima Posted January 19, 2014 Share #780 Posted January 19, 2014 Augie, I have been folowing your build log and am impressed by your progress. The Confederacy is a beautiful model, but I didn't have it in me to start such an ambitious project. So I started completely totally different, a Ferrari hydroplane kit by Amati. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4913-arno-xi-ferrari-hydroplane-by-rvchima-amati-18/ I am really missing Chuck's highly detailed instructions and feedback from the other experienced buiders on this site. Please take a look and let me know if you have any thoughts about how to procede with this unusual kit. Rod Quote Rod Current Build - HMS Sphinx, 20 Gun Frigate from 1775 Previous Builds Bismarck, WWII German Battleship, Prinz Eugen, WWII German Heavy Cruiser (Aeronaut), U-Boat 47 (Amati), HM Bark Endeavour (Caldercraft), US Brig Syren (MS), Arno XI Ferrari Hydroplane (Amati), Osberg Viking Ship (Billings), Anteo Harbour Tug (Panart), Marie Felling Harbour Tug (Caldercraft), Arleigh-Burke guided missile destroyer (Bluejacket) Seguin, Steam Tug from 1884, Mississippi Steamboat Robert E. Lee (Amati) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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