HMS Pegasus 1776 by Knocklouder - Amati/Victory Models - 1:64

[Knocklouder]

Today I was supposed to go to work but it was raining, so I decided to do a kit opening  page for my new log, the Pegasus. 

 

The contents of the kit look really good, as I put things away , and get ready to build. My keel is made of plywood, not mdf. Must be an older kit, I assume.  I dont know much about the Pegasus,  but she sank in Canada in 1777, a little over a year after she was launched. 

 So putting things away, the keel fell out of the box, lol, so I decided  to make the temporary stand, and dry fit everything.  It went together really well. It does come with a lot of plans and books of understandable instructions. 

 

I dry fitted  all the bulkheads and got all the keel parts ready.  

So tomorrow, I will start glueing and beveling the bulkheads, and also the four pairs of plank termination patterns. Then I will see what I need to do next. It is so helpful to know that if I run into problems, this is the place to be to get all the help I need here.

Thanks so much for watching.  Take care my friends. 

 

Bob M.

 

 

[jpalmer1970]

Look forward to following along on this👍

[aliluke]

Hi Bob

This is a great kit designed by Chris Watton I believe. Since it was produced things have changed. The cannons are not up to scratch but these are details. Heaps of logs for Pegasus here, but "Blue Ensign" is the definitive one that I'd refer to. 

 

As said, it is a brilliant kit and even without incidental upgrades it will turn into a beauty - upgrade the cannons though - the kit ones supplied are shockingly bad. Blue Ensign's and my Fly log give you advice on that.

 

Enjoy the build - a great kit choice!

[Keith Black]

 I look forward to watching your Pegasus build come to life, Bob. 

[Glen McGuire]

9 hours ago, Knocklouder said:

Today I was supposed to go to work but it was raining, so I decided to do a kit opening  page for my new log, the Pegasus. 

Ship modeling vs going to work.  Hmmmmm.  A difficult choice but I like your decision!  😃

 

Looks like a very interesting project.  However, I'm concerned that I don't see Marvin the Martian overseeing your work again.  Is he ok?

[John Ruy]

Looks like a great kit, I’ll pull up a chair and follow along. 🍻

[Landlubber Mike]

Following along on this one for sure!  Looks like Amati still has the oversized cannons.  You might want to look into replacements from RB Models or Syren.  I believe I bought the ones from RB.

[Dave_E]

If you keep building ships at this rate, what are you doing with them all? 😀

 

I’m in. 🍿🥤

[mtaylor]

I;'m in.. chair - check,  popcorn - check....  

[ccoyle]

I see several other members have beaten me to the recommendation about the cannon. They are not period-correct. Amati's off-the-shelf swivel guns are not great, either.

[Darius359au]

I'll just pop my head in here on the guns , I got replacements for both the main and swivels from RB models for my Pegasus and blackened them with birchwood casey brass black.

The kit itself is beautiful and it's amazing how much is packed in the box😎

 

R

Edited August 13, 2023 by Darius359au

[Knocklouder]

This is Pegasus all put away in the top 3 shelfs ,   all the planks are on the rack behind the super D cup, ready for planking lol.

  Yes most diffinly  going to order new cannons but what size is right.

 This is a cannon from the kit on a carriage, it does look to big, the bottom one is from an Astrolabe model that I have but can't tell you what size it is. More research  lol.

Well I glued the bulk heads and the plank termination patterns  on the bow, it went together well.  Now just going to let it dry over night , then  bevel the bulk heads. After all the sanding is done I will attach the keel parts, then move on to planking the main deck.

 If anyone  could tell me what size of cannons, I should order that would be great.  Thanks 

   PS. Don't forget to donate to MSW. 

 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Knocklouder

[aliluke]

You are very organised! For the cannons have a look at my Fly log or Blue Ensign's Pegasus log. Mine were from RB. For the swivels I used Syren. There are many more alternatives out there these days with 3D printing coming on stream...but the RB version is just fine in my opinion. The kit supplied versions are a shocker.

[Knocklouder]

The other day I went to the wood shed and cut up some wood for in between the bulk heads. I used my table saw to cut up some right width pieces,  then used my scroll saw to get them closer to want I wanted. Even so there was an awful  amount of sanding, but I think I did all right. I ran a plank over it and it seems good to go.

Then I  plaked the stair wells on the lower deck and blacked out were the grate goes. On to the gun deck. It went on really easy, time to start  decking.

 I only have  done a two but patterns on all my other ships. This calls for a 5 butt patten. I was lost, had to give a shout out to @Landlubber Mike to ask for help. He directed me to a thread and the light switch  went on.  Thank you so much Mike.

Peice of cake, 1,3,5,2,4

That all all I got to rember lol. I drew it out on the deck ,adjusting for errors  and making sure I started right I started

 

Then I made up a cannon carriage, painted it  and put the kit supplied  cannon on. Way to big. So I am getting  new one's. As far as the carriage  goes  I think they will be OK, if I can put them together  with out breaking them, they are very tiny. 

So This is how far I got on the deck, I gave it a quick coat of shellac, it will look better when it's all done 

   I think I will do as much decking as I can, then put the gunstrips on, and move on to the frist planking before I do any more to the deck. We will see. That it for now.            

Bob M.

Edited August 17, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[Landlubber Mike]

Looking great Bob!  Really nice job!  You're moving along quickly.

 

Nice work putting in the filler blocks.  I didn't on mine, but started putting them in subsequent builds.  Makes planking so much easier.

[Glen McGuire]

Looks like you are off to a great start on this one, Bob!  What did you use to darken the lines between each deck board?

[Knocklouder]

135241 lol in my sleep, the deck planking  went well, I am 98% happy with it, I used a dry erase marker, the kind they use on white boards.  I usually use a sharpie marker but thought I give this a go. At first I like it, if you got some on the front of the plank it was guickly  sanded of, so away I went. I used a shelac sealer and it started to bleed a bit. Dang. I sanded it all of and stared drilling  the nail holes. After that a good sanding followed by a guick coat of flat clear coat. 

So this is what it looks like, once it's  all done you won't see much floor. And were the floor show, it looks good, most of the bleed happen under the aft deck so you won't see it.

 So I am going to make up the cannon carriages  then tomorrow  I am going to put the gun strips on, hopefully  lol.

  Thank you everyone for the likes and comments,  I am having so much fun putting my ships together,  they may not be the best built models but they look good to me, and it's all about having  FUN. Lol

                

Bob M.

Edited August 18, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[Knocklouder]

Change of course. I finished the cannon carriages and I am awaiting the new scale correct cannons. So I made a jig up and glued the carriages  together, this is my jig, it worked for me lol.

Here is how I paint the wheels all at once, lined them up  on a wire rod and sprayed a couple of coats of flat black. I was going to airbrush the carriages  but decidd it was going to be faster just to hand paint them.

 

 

Today I was going to do the gun strips, but changed course and decided to follow the instructions , lol. So it's on to page two lol.    My first capstan and main pump cistern and two bits. That's the fun stuff,  things I never tried before .

   Ok that's it for today, happy modeling 

 

Bob M.                 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[Landlubber Mike]

Nice work Bob, moving along quickly!  Take your time on the gunport patterns - they are important to get on right.

[Knocklouder]

Today I made my first capstan, good thing it is under the upper deck  lol. I painted the Main pump cistern black, but I might change that. I have to start thinking of how I want the ship to look, what color goes where,  and where to leave  natural.  So on to planking  got lots of that to do. 

   The gun strips went on well enough.  Lots of clamps but was really easy to do for some reason.  It all just fit where it was supposed to,  a little  sanding but not that much.  I proceeded  to put the first plank on as well  it looks good, a bit of sanding filling,  it will be good to go. 

So I fitted the  upper decks and played with my only cannon, realizing that there is a lot of rigging and little  eye bolts to do on these cannons. I am going planking  lol. For some reason I want to get to the coppering, I guess it is because I have never done copper before.  

I believe that I will start making the grates, going to do them, or try to do them like  @Blue Ensign, they look amazing.  Well that is  it for today, I am really glad the gun patterns went on well.     

      Talk later  Bob M.

Edited August 20, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[mtdoramike]

Fantastic work so far, looking forward to more pictures of progress.

[Knocklouder]

Well today I have managed to get the hatch coaming completed. They don't  look to bad, IMHO, lol.  

I even put a little bevel to them, they look like they could shed water lol. On to the planking, first and seconded,  then the coppering , lots to do . Thanks everyone for the likes and comments. 

      

Bob M.

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[Knocklouder]

Today was a great day 😌,  slow start but I am retired  lol. I won't tell you which side of noon I arose lol but went to work right away. Lol.

 I think my hatch coaming  need a little  work , I think the bevel  at each end could be sanded a bit more, we will see.

 So I planked the first plakes on the star board side. And would you not know it is  my best first planking so far and it will be covered by copper. Lol. But it a good smooth  base for second planks.

The keel and the planks are pretty  darn close to being  flush with each other. I didn't  do a rabbet at the start, but I did chisel out about six inches at the stern  so they sit flush, looks good to me.

I have six planks on the port side, they look scary  but after sanding they will be OK.  

Hopefully I can finish the frist planking tomorrow,  and start the second layer of planks as well.

 Having so much fun with this kit. I was afraid  to start it, I didn't want to ruin it. As I get into this build it just coming together nicely. There are a lot of things I have to decide , on how to make her look, but I got some time, the coppering is going to slow me down till I get the hang of it , we'll see. 

  If not for MSW I would be lost, it is so great that I can look at other  logs and try to do my best. I still need to be careful I tend to go full steam and not like what I see and , do it over again,  lol , but it's my hobby, lol. Onward to the planking 

Bob M. 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[jpalmer1970]

You are speeding through this. It will be launched and in action before you know it 😁

Edited August 22, 2023 by jpalmer1970

[Glen McGuire]

Can't believe how fast you got that first layer of planking done!  Warp speed and it looks great!!

[allanyed]

On 8/12/2023 at 10:31 PM, Knocklouder said:

This is a cannon from the kit on a carriage, it does look to big, the bottom one is from an Astrolabe model that I have but can't tell you what size it is. More research  lol.

 

Sorry for the late reply.   If you have not already gotten the information that you need do you know what the designated length or actual length of the 6 pounders were in full size?   I can send you the appropriate drawings and dimensions at your scale of the Armstrong Frederick pattern in a high resolution, but in the meantime, the below may help.  The designated length was usually as measured from the breech ring to the muzzle, but for these small vessels, they were sometime shorter than the common length.  See David Antscherl's TFFM Volume II page 129.   Also, from The History of English Sea Ordnance, Volume II by Caruana, page 217, while lengths were generally expressed in whole feet and half feet, in reality the actual variation was as much as plus/minus 2 inches (or for 1:64, +/- 0.03" (+/-0.8mm))  There are a number of sources for turned and cast barrels, but I have had very high quality barrels printed in black resin, including the cypher and trunnions for well under $1US each including postage.

 

Allan

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by allanyed

[Knocklouder]

Thank you @allanyed for this, that's what I need. And thanks @aliluke, yes those cannons do  have to go, I am going to replace them for sure. Not sure about the swivel guns,  we will see. Working on getting a  stove as well.

 Today I finished the planking on both 

sides of the ship. 

 

The next step was the stern counter pattern, followed by  whalers and paint. Now I got to let the paint dry , then on to the second layer of planks.

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I have more work to do on the stern so that the planks fit the keel, another  rabbet maybe, I will fix it lol.

 Thanks so much for looking in, having a great time, I know rigging is coming up,  but I like ratlines lol.      

 

Edited August 23, 2023 by Knocklouder
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[Keith Black]

 Great job, Bob.

[Bryan Woods]

On 8/21/2023 at 10:56 PM, Knocklouder said:

I was afraid  to start it, I didn't want to ruin it.

Lol, that’s exactly how I feel:-) I hope my first is just close to yours! 

[allanyed]

For the future you might want to check out the string of posts in https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34577-taper-of-the-keel-stem-knee-of-the-head-and-stern-post/#comment-985522    Some find it of some importance, others not so much.

 

Allan

Edited August 23, 2023 by allanyed