druxey Posted May 2, 2015 #361 Posted May 2, 2015 The sides of the opening should probably be parallel to each other, Ben. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Trussben Posted May 2, 2015 Author #362 Posted May 2, 2015 Could you elaborate a little please Druxey. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
druxey Posted May 3, 2015 #363 Posted May 3, 2015 The sides and sills of the timbers should match the quarter badge opening on the sheer draught. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Trussben Posted May 3, 2015 Author #364 Posted May 3, 2015 Thanks Druxey, I have also started making up the keelson parts, lots of scarph joints! Ben harvey1847, Jeronimo, augie and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
dvm27 Posted May 4, 2015 #365 Posted May 4, 2015 Looking great, Ben. I actually made the fore and aft sections before framing as it was easy to transfer the bottom shapes this way. druxey 1 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
druxey Posted May 4, 2015 #366 Posted May 4, 2015 That is thinking ahead! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Trussben Posted May 4, 2015 Author #367 Posted May 4, 2015 Here are all 5 pieces of the keelson scarphed together and installed. They were also bolted down through every floor timber with 1 1/4" "bamboo" bolts. Now the Stemson needs to be made. Ben tadheus, albert, iMack and 19 others 22 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
druxey Posted May 4, 2015 #368 Posted May 4, 2015 Nice! I like the run of the floor fillers. Trussben 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Trussben Posted May 4, 2015 Author #369 Posted May 4, 2015 Here is a shot from above for Druxey showing better the run of the floor fillers. Ben tadheus, rafine, harvey1847 and 11 others 14 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Rustyj Posted May 4, 2015 #370 Posted May 4, 2015 Really nice stuff Ben. Well done! Trussben 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
mtaylor Posted May 5, 2015 #371 Posted May 5, 2015 Beautiful, Ben... She looks very well put together. Trussben 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
gjdale Posted May 5, 2015 #372 Posted May 5, 2015 Looking great Ben. Love that last overhead shot too! Trussben 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Trussben Posted May 5, 2015 Author #373 Posted May 5, 2015 Thanks Rusty, Mark and Grant for looking in. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
augie Posted May 5, 2015 #374 Posted May 5, 2015 That's an incredible amount of beautiful work. mtaylor and Trussben 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
yancovitch Posted May 28, 2015 #375 Posted May 28, 2015 super!.....i can't imagine doing that...would never have the patience.....such meticulous devotion.....sad though, how many are there in this world, who could truly appreciate that work...... Quote
Trussben Posted June 12, 2015 Author #376 Posted June 12, 2015 So very busy life has me out of the workshop at the moment, but I did receive the figurehead carving I commisioned from David Antscherl yesterday - As with any of his work it is simply outstanding to say the least. Thank you David for accepting the commision. ben albert, AON, Mirabell61 and 27 others 30 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Mirabell61 Posted June 12, 2015 #377 Posted June 12, 2015 beautiful figurehead Ben, Nils Trussben 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
ChrisLBren Posted June 12, 2015 #378 Posted June 12, 2015 Come on Ben - you should have carved it yourself....(smile). Looks fantastic - wow.... mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote
dvm27 Posted June 12, 2015 #379 Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I love your wilder mane version, Ben. I have the tamer dreads on my Pegasus. David probably matched them to our personalities. Hopefully others will note the way the tail is included in both starboard and port views as was done with classical lion and equestrian figureheads. Edited June 12, 2015 by dvm27 Jeronimo, mtaylor, tadheus and 2 others 5 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
rafine Posted June 12, 2015 #380 Posted June 12, 2015 She is a beauty Ben. As I know from my Essex figurehead, some things are just better left to people with a real talent for doing them. Bob CharlieZardoz, mtaylor and robin b 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Remcohe Posted June 12, 2015 #381 Posted June 12, 2015 That is one lovely addition to your build Ben! Remco robin b, mtaylor and Trussben 3 Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
Martin W Posted June 12, 2015 #382 Posted June 12, 2015 I can't help but notice that Greg's has a halter on to go along with the less flamboyant mane. If the two versions reflect the respective characters, then Ben's is wilder and un-haltered! They are both stunning little works of art. Cheers, Martin dvm27, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel
Trussben Posted June 12, 2015 Author #383 Posted June 12, 2015 Hey Greg - I'm not so sure about that, my mother always said watch out for the quiet ones! Chris - thanks, maybe I'll try carving on the next model but when you can get somebody of David's talent to make what you see here, well what do I say. Martin - see comment to Greg above. Ben mtaylor, Martin W and robin b 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
AON Posted June 12, 2015 #384 Posted June 12, 2015 I was lucky enough to have seen this and the model in progress resting on his draughting board when I took my last workshop with him. It was a sight then... everyone was gawking at it. If I have a photo I will PM you it. Canute, robin b and mtaylor 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
AnobiumPunctatum Posted June 13, 2015 #385 Posted June 13, 2015 Wow, your figurehead is looking absolut fantastic. Really nice carvings Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Trussben Posted July 7, 2015 Author #386 Posted July 7, 2015 So managed to get a couple of hours in the workshop on the holiday weekend, working on the framing at the stern, I have tried to keep the sizing and spacing of the timbers as close to the layout shown on the Cygnet DOF plan but with the positioning of the port from the Pegasus plan. ben DmitriyMarkov, AnobiumPunctatum, albert and 19 others 22 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
AnobiumPunctatum Posted July 7, 2015 #387 Posted July 7, 2015 Ben it looks that the port is a little big and so the frames on the counter timber are a little bit small. If you plank the upper part of your hull I wouldn't change anything. Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
dvm27 Posted July 7, 2015 #388 Posted July 7, 2015 That look's terrific, Ben. You may wish to add a temporary batten at the toptomber line as the whole assembly is pretty fragile. I believe both Toni and myself have snapped off portions with errant elbows. Martin W, mtaylor, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
tlevine Posted July 7, 2015 #389 Posted July 7, 2015 I think mine we replaced 3 times! Although one of those it was the dog's fault. dvm27, Trussben, robin b and 3 others 6 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
druxey Posted July 7, 2015 #390 Posted July 7, 2015 Looks good, Ben. Take Greg and Toni's advice, though: we've all had that experience, although it was another model maker who damaged the framing of one of my models.... Trussben, alangr4 and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
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