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Posted

Congrats Glen, that is some accomplishment and it looks great!  I think this is your best effort yet and that is something as your past few builds have been superb.  The real challenge now is how to surpass this one (yeah, I know get back in my corner and shut up) :)  A case of Bundy to you and your crew.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted (edited)

@Keith Black The Truth is still out there!!!  I think everyone from the Captain to the helmsman on both ships are screaming "Hard To Port,  Hard To Port".:)

Glen, she is perfect.  The ships are going the same way as the water and the whirlpool. 

Again my friend, you have outdone yourself, Dang, you're good. Now that you have mastered putting more than one ship in a bottle, you can only top this with a famous battle of multiple ships. I don't remember details, but Keith Black had mentioned it to me in passing. Lol

  Sorry buddy, I started Ratlines today and I might be light headed from it. Lol.  :cheers:   Bob . M

         .             PILE

Goober is not here but says "Merry  Christmas GLEN."

 

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Guessing typos lol

Start so you can Finish !!

Finished:         The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,   Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA  Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar  The King Of the Mississippi  Artesania Latina  1:80 

 

 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models :)

Posted
1 hour ago, Knocklouder said:

I think everyone from the Captain to the helmsman on both ships are screaming "Hard To Port,  Hard To Port".:)

No doubt! :)

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted

 Glen, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted
On 12/22/2024 at 3:48 PM, Ian_Grant said:

Glen, sorry to disappoint but I don't know either. 😞 Hey, I'm an electrical guy not an aeronautical fluid dynamics guy........

OK, Ian.  But you are till my engineering superhero!

 

On 12/22/2024 at 4:45 PM, Keith Black said:

Wouldn't the Captains be giving commands to the helmsman to counter those forces,, Agent Mulder?

Agent Mulder?  How did the X-Files get into the conversation?  At least you didn't call me Mr. Chucklehead!!  😃

Posted (edited)
On 12/22/2024 at 5:06 PM, BANYAN said:

A case of Bundy to you and your crew.

Thank you, Pat!  A Bundy toast to everyone for Christmas and the New Year!  :cheers:

 

 

On 12/22/2024 at 6:19 PM, Knocklouder said:

The Truth is still out there!!!

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On 12/22/2024 at 6:19 PM, Knocklouder said:

you can only top this with a famous battle of multiple ships.

You are not allowed to offer suggestion for future projects while you are under the influence of ratlines.

 

 

On 12/24/2024 at 10:13 AM, Keith Black said:

Glen, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

Thanks, Keith.  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and Maggie as well as everyone here in the MSW family!

Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted

Catching up, Glen and the whirlpool turned out great and no question about what we're looking at with the ships positioned around it.  Very cool.  Looking forward to the base.

 

Gary

Current Build   Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger  

 

Completed Scratch Builds

Rangeley Guide Boat   New England Stonington Dragger   1940 Auto Repair Shop   Mack FK Shadowbox    

 

Posted (edited)

I finally emerged from my ratline stupor on the Constitution and got to work on the base for this project.  However, I decided to change directions on the base.  Originally, I was going to set the bottle in the middle of that swirled piece of wood shown in an early post.  But looking at it now, I think the piece of wood is too large.  It swallows up the bottle and overwhelms the ships.  So I decided on a base that’s smaller in stature and ties more directly to the pirate/ghost ship theme.  So now the idea is to make a base that looks like a section of an old, weathered, pirate/ghost ship deck and have the bottle rest atop it.

 

I started with finished oak strips that are ½” tall by 2” wide and 24” long.  I only had 4 in hand that were long enough so I pieced 2 shorter ones together for the middle plank (the seam between the ends will be hidden under the bottle).

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Next, instead of clean ends on each plank, I decided to make rough, broken edges to add to the old, weathered look.  Here, I found another use for my heavy pieces of railroad track.  I used 2 pieces of track to securely hold the oak plank down on a cinder block.  Then I took a hand sledge hammer and gave the extruding end a hard WHACK.  It broke off pretty rough but I figured I could clean it up a bit and soften the sharp splinters.

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Here's all the planks whacked down to their proper length which is about 16”.

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Now for the ageing and weathering.  I’ve learned 2 things about ageing and weathering wood.  The first was from @gjdale and his Foss Landing diorama when he taught me that ageing and weathering is not just about the color, it’s also about the texture.  To give my planks the proper texture, I used an angle grinder with a stiff-wire scraping attachment and cut deep, random grooves into the surface.  I also used it on the splintered board ends to soften them.  

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Here’s all the raw planks after the angle grinder treatment.

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The second thing I’ve learned about ageing/weathering wood has to do with the color.  There’s a lot of old barn wood at my ranch that’s been out in the elements for decades.  Studying the old barn wood, there are layers of colors that provide its aged look.  So that’s what I tried to do with these planks.  I had it in my mind that an old pirate/ghost would be on the dark side, with shades of brown, and gray showing through.  So I started with a layer of English Chestnut stain.  Then I hit the deeper grooves with a much darker Early American stain.  When that base coloring dried, I made several mixes of Tamiyo white and Tamiyo gray and thinned each pool with a bunch of acrylic thinner to make several fairly transparent washes.  Finally, I took a fan brush and very lightly applied the different washes across the surface of the planks.

 

In the pic below, the first 2 planks have the wash applied and you can see how the wash really adds to the layering of colors compared to the planks above them.  The last pic shows all the planks with stain and wash.  The picture makes it look a little more shiny that it really looks with your eyeballs.    

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Here's all the planks with the washes applied.

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The final task for the base was to add oakum between the planks.  For oakum, I used strands of hemp which I colored black before pushing them into the grooves.

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And here's the completed base with cradles for the bottle added.

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Not quite home yet, but the finish line is right around the corner!

 

 

  

Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted

Nice look, Glen. I like it though I also liked the piece of wood. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted
5 hours ago, Keith Black said:

I like it though I also liked the piece of wood. 

Agree, Keith.  I still like that piece of wood so don't be surprised if it shows in some future project.

 

 

5 hours ago, Paul Le Wol said:

Going to have to add Concrete Block to my list of shop tools to acquire 😀!

We just never know what might come in handy, do we, Paul!   :cheers:

 

 

1 hour ago, gjdale said:

Superb job on the weathering of those planks Glen!

Thanks, Grant.  I learned from a pro!  

 

 

 

Posted

I think it was a good call to change the base. The big piece of wood probably would have taken too much attention and make the bottle disappear.

 

The new base looks awesome and will make people focus on the ships (and whirlpool!)

Posted

 I know the original idea of using the piece of wood would probably swallow the bottle but isn't that what a whirlpool does? 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted (edited)

I was fumbling around for a couple of days trying to figure out how to finish this thing up.  I liked the weathered deck planks, but I wanted more than just the bottle sitting on a cradle on top of the planks.  The Final Jeopardy music kept playing and nothing was coming to mind.  The next day, I was walking through an old shed out at my ranch and noticed a discarded, rusty chain and some scraps of a rusted gutter lying in the corner.  Hmmmmm.  I wasn't exactly sure what I could do with them, if anything, but they were interesting enough to take home and ponder further.

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I got them home, started playing around, and finally stumbled upon a way to use them to enhance the presentation.  After sealing the chain with spray poly, I coiled it around the bottle's cradles to where it hid the cradles and made it look like the bottle was resting on the chain.  OK.  I liked that.  Now, the only thing left was the nameplate.  I was sizing up various small pieces of wood to glue a nameplate to when another light bulb went off.  Why not use a piece of the thin, rusted gutter to glue the nameplate to?  So I found a piece that had rough edges and was about the size I needed.  I bent the bottom edge of it backwards so it could act as a base.  Then I printed out my paper nameplate and Mod Podged it to the rusty piece of gutter.      

 

Before I post the final pictures, I want to extend a sincere THANK YOU to everyone that took part in this project.  I would have never made it to the finish line without your comments, critiques, suggestions, encouragement, and humor.  What an amazing group of people we have here at MSW and I’m fortunate to be a part of the community.  Whether you popped in and out or suffered through every post of this build log, I owe you a debt of gratitude:   @BANYAN, @Keith Black, @Knocklouder, @Ian_Grant, @Javelin, @Canute, @GrandpaPhil, @FriedClams, @gjdale, @Paul Le Wol,@mtaylor, @Bryan Woods, @tmj, @Landlubber Mike, @BLACK VIKING, @JacquesCousteau, @Old Collingwood, @Dan Poirier, @Kauz, @CiscoH, @herask, @ccoyle, @John Fox III, @Baker, @Snug Harbor Johnny, @PvG Aussie, @Desertanimal, @Thukydides, @gsdpic, @firdajan, @vossiewulf, @DanielD, @Pfälzer, @Ainars.

 

 Oh, and special thanks to Plumber Paul, PFC Gnomer Pile, and Goober for their support (even though Mr. Goob had his doubts about me).

 

One more.  Extra special thanks to my friend Eric.  He is an extraordinary artist/carver/creative genius, etc and is the one that came up with the idea of building the whirlpool in layers outside the bottle and then inserting them piece by piece.  That was the key to pulling this whole thing off.

 

Here's how all that came out.

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Edited by Glen McGuire
  • The title was changed to Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl by Glen McGuire - FINISHED - 1/700 - BOTTLE
Posted

Congratulations on an inventive and unique build! The chain base looks great and fits the mood of the piece quite well.

Posted

That is a masterpiece of SIB modelling Glen.  Love your explanation and execution of the weathering; those pieces of wood and the rusty chain look the 'real' deal mate.  

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Holy cow Glen, that came out so well!!  Your creativity is amazing, not just for the SIB itself, but the overall composition with the display base.  Well done my friend!

 

The only problem I see is that you keep upping the bar for yourself.  You're making it harder and harder to top your last efforts, but I have faith in you :) 

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    Hs129B-2 1/48  SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32   IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

Posted

That is just outstanding Glen! Congratulations and well done on yet another fine example of the SIB art.

Posted

 

 Glen, this photo of your SIB is the best and most incredible SIB I have ever seen, I am absolutely blown away. :stunned:

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Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted (edited)

I agree 100% with you @Keith Black totally blowin away.  It is absolutely amazing. Gobsmacked perfection.  :cheers:  Congratulations my friend!!!

 

Bob M.  & Crew.

 

Goober says he will never doubt you ever again. Your the best!!!

Edited by Knocklouder
More info

Start so you can Finish !!

Finished:         The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,   Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA  Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar  The King Of the Mississippi  Artesania Latina  1:80 

 

 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models :)

Posted

Superb beyond words  Glen,  it is  such a shame  that  the people over at  Pirates of the Caribbean  can not see it  - they would be  impressed  as  we  all  are:cheers::dancetl6::10_1_10:

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

Congratulations on this very nice diorama in a bottle.
It was very pleasant to follow the whole story of building it.

Posted

Great Job Glen!  The ships and the whirlpool are amazing by their selves. Thanks for setting them under the glass so us with poor eyesight can see them even better:-)

Current builds: 

Le Martegaou- 1:80 - Billing Boats


Back on the shelf: 

Gretel - Mamoli

Nonsuch 30 - 1:24 - Model Shipway

 

Completed builds:

Mini Oseberg no 302 -Billing Boats

Sea of Galilee boat

Lowell Grand Banks dory,         Norwegian sailing pram

Muscongus bay lobster smack

Peterboro Canoe- Midwest

Captain John Smith’s shallop - Pavel Nikitin

Chesapeake double kayak

Posted

Apart from the excellent build itself, the display is very nicely balanced and puts the ships nicely on center stage. 

 

Congratulations on a perfect build. 

 

I vote for a complete battle of Trafalgar in a bottle for the next build.

Admit it, the only way you're going to top this is by having at least 4 ships fighting in a bottle! 

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