James H Posted July 17, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 17, 2020 Well, this one has been a LONG time coming. I mean, this lockdown seems to have lasted a lifetime, so the original notice of Amati's now almost mythical 1:64 HMS Victory seems to have been such a long time ago! A lot of water has passed under the bridge since 2013 when Chris drove to Italy with the original design model in late 2013. Amati had enough general interest about their Victory from modellers to warrant then asking me to build a production prototype for the new format instruction manuals they now use. There were a few changes from Chris' original kit too, and Amati wanted those incorporated in the new manuals. Those manuals (yes, plural!) will contain (tentatively) around 1500 build photos, and be perfect-bound, glossy productions. I've already broken down Chris' construction into a multitude of chapters, with each depicting a specific sequence/task. For example, there will be a chapter for building each size of gun, each of the launches, the stove, first planking, but also for fitting out whole decks. For this build, I will use the existing manuals that Chris made when he finished his kit. Since Chris designed the model, Amati's laser manufacturer had changed the specs on sheet size that they could cut, so the sheet layouts needed to be rehashed for the new sizes. That was done earlier this year, but just when everything looked like it was going to plan (again), Italy, then the rest of the world, went into lockdown. So here we now are on the other side....just about. DHL delivered the HUGE box not long ago, and it is fantastically heavy! What is omitted at the moment are some first layer planks that they will ship when back in stock, and the cannon and figurehead. They won't be needed for a long time. They are also waiting on the copper PE, but I do have all the sheets of brass PE here. So, we have bags of laser-cut material (MDF, ply, timber), sleeves of strip (lots of them!), bags of PE and a whole bag of various fittings. I already have the thirty-one sheets of plans. Remember, this isn't a review, but just a build log. I cant review something like this which isn't quite complete. That's not the purpose. Inside the box, all the laser cut parts were bagged into two thick poly sleeves. These packs were of course the real weight behind this delivery. I'll open them later to look through them but I've included a few images they sent me of the parts before they shipped out. The sheer quantity of strip and dowel in this model is bewildering. The only time I've seen as much as this is when I've been in a hobby shop! Fittings. Usually Amati pack these into trays, but for this purpose, all the stuff is in little bags and sleeves and bundled into this substantial bag. You name it, and it's in here... Photo etch: Here's all the brass sheet stuff. I am waiting on the copper parts yet, but thought you'd like to see these. As I've been promising this kit arriving for a long time, I felt the need to stick my flag in the ground and start a build log showing the stuff that I now have. I won't be actually starting this until after 3rd August as I'll be away, plus I also have a project I need to take care of before that (written article, not a build). So....there we have it!!! **Apologies for phone camera pics too. The build will be done like my typical studio photos** Sjors, FrankWouts, Canute and 40 others 43 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 17, 2020 I'm just glad I don't have to build it again! gsprings, Ronald-V, hollowneck and 29 others 28 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, chris watton said: I'm just glad I don't have to build it again! I bet!!!! 😆 One HMS Victory will be enough for my lifetime, so I'm glad it's this one. popeye the sailor, BobG, Ryland Craze and 12 others 15 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald-V Posted July 17, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 17, 2020 Fascinating stuff! Really excited to watch this come together! Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor, Nirvana and 6 others 9 Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted July 17, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 17, 2020 Speechless.... 😲 I agree with both of you: this is a one time build in your lifetime. Yves Canute, FrankWouts, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted July 17, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 17, 2020 Im just patiently waiting for the release date! MIKE mtaylor, kiwiron, popeye the sailor and 6 others 9 Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 17, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 17, 2020 Gargantuan models are not my personal cup of tea as a builder, but I strongly suspect that this will be a big hit for Amati and am really looking forward to watching your progress. Cheers! mort stoll, Canute, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articcie Posted July 17, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 17, 2020 That is a big part of the rain forrest in a even bigger box! Good luck building it! popeye the sailor, Canute, FrankWouts and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted July 17, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 17, 2020 Wow. Looks like a great kit. Nirvana, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted July 17, 2020 Share #10 Posted July 17, 2020 Could this be The most accurate Victory replica yet? OC. FrankWouts, Ryland Craze, Canute and 5 others 8 Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuglo Posted July 17, 2020 Share #11 Posted July 17, 2020 So tempting, but I estimate would need at least 3 years for this. With 4 projects already on list, I think this would be a build too far. But who knows. Old Collingwood, FrankWouts, Nirvana and 5 others 8 current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 17, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 17, 2020 Don’t have to wait till monday to see something 👍 When your finished with this beast, i’ll be like this —> 👨🏼🦯 Enjoy your vacation (if it is vacation ) en come back in safe health! Sjors Nirvana, mtaylor, FrankWouts and 5 others 8 Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huy_HTP Posted July 17, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 17, 2020 Where can I buy it? Canute, popeye the sailor, mort stoll and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 17, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 17, 2020 I’ll definitely be watching this and enjoy building it vicariously. No way am I interested in building something so large, but it will be fun watching you do it. chris watton, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted July 17, 2020 Share #15 Posted July 17, 2020 Im very interested, though I cant say Im particularly thrilled to see another Victory kit in the market - perhaps this one will become THE one. Looks like a lot of design work and prep went into it congrats to them, happy to follow along. Thanks for sharing with us all James. popeye the sailor, Canute, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord-Canada Posted July 17, 2020 Share #16 Posted July 17, 2020 Will definitely get this kit once it’s available FrankWouts, Old Collingwood, Canute and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 17, 2020 Share #17 Posted July 17, 2020 i have followed this from the early days, so pleased it has got to this stage, unfortunately i dont think i will get the change to build this one, but will gladly watch others go through the process yvesvidal, popeye the sailor, hollowneck and 7 others 10 Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Farragut Posted July 17, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 17, 2020 is this available to purchase or still prototype? mtaylor, mort stoll, Ryland Craze and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 17, 2020 Share #19 Posted July 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Admiral_Farragut said: is this available to purchase or still prototype? James is building the second prototype and will be taking photographs for the instruction manuals along the way. Amati says the release date will be toward the end of 2021 -- realistically you might want to add a few months on to that. BobG, mtaylor, hollowneck and 10 others 13 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted July 17, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 17, 2020 Italians seem to work in geological time frames. But hopefully this will not be the case in this instance... yvesvidal, scrubbyj427, Nirvana and 11 others 14 Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted July 17, 2020 Share #21 Posted July 17, 2020 I want one.. mort stoll, Canute, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunnehi (Don) Posted July 17, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, harlequin said: I want one.. Me too! mort stoll, Nirvana, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord-Canada Posted July 17, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 17, 2020 Late 2021 gives some entrepreneurs time to create some scale furniture and/or fixtures and the odd crew to put inside the ship, in one or more cabins, underneath one of the main hatches etc, captain at his desk perhaps. I gather there’s a detailed laser scan of the ship, perhaps those looking to gather support could commercialize that data in other ways. Just thinking 🤔 mtaylor, Canute, Ryland Craze and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord-Canada Posted July 18, 2020 Share #24 Posted July 18, 2020 these folks could probably produce excellent add-on products in any scale if they’re up to the challenge Games Workshop Group PLC Website www.games-workshop.com Games Workshop Group PLC mort stoll, FrankWouts, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted July 18, 2020 Share #25 Posted July 18, 2020 Looking forward to this journey! mort stoll, Old Collingwood, FrankWouts and 5 others 8 Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 18, 2020 Share #26 Posted July 18, 2020 That is going to be huge.. and I thought 1:64 frigates were large. I salute you for this project, Jim. hollowneck, mort stoll, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted July 18, 2020 Share #27 Posted July 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, mtaylor said: That is going to be huge.. and I thought 1:64 frigates were large. I salute you for this project, Jim. Its Screaming out for a Trafalgar dio on it though. OC. Helli, Ryland Craze, Canute and 4 others 7 Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jarman Posted July 18, 2020 Share #28 Posted July 18, 2020 WOW is an understatement for this monster. Will be following your build with interest. What do you reckon a couple of weeks? When you paint, will it be pink or the IMO correct scheme of yellow? Looking forward to the start of your build. Good Luck, Paul Ryland Craze, mtaylor, hollowneck and 5 others 8 In work: -queen-mary-2 Finished: rms-titanic-1912 Finished: king-of-the-Mississippi Finished: Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted July 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, Paul Jarman said: When you paint, will it be pink or the IMO correct scheme of yellow? Having seen the insipid excuse for what is being called the 'correct' colour, I think I'll be sticking with the traditional yellow ochre. chris watton, jeff watts, Ryland Craze and 6 others 9 SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted July 18, 2020 Share #30 Posted July 18, 2020 Nice project!I'm looking forward to your buildlog. She's an eternal warship. Great! Jack James H, mtaylor, FrankWouts and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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