Licorne 1755 by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - French Frigate - from Hahn plans - Version 2.0 - TERMINATED

[mobbsie]

Hi Mark,

 

Whichever way you look at your hull planking mate there's an awful lot of work there, it's no wonder you been a while on it,  none of that time has been wasted.

 

She's looking real good.

 

Whilst looking after Janet mate and I sincerely hope her pain is under control please don't forget to look after yourself.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[shipmodel]

Hi Mark - 

 

That planking is coming along very nicely, and that is not easy with the odd shape of French hulls from that period.

 

Well done

 

Dan

[popeye the sailor]

Mobbsie coined it pretty good.........there's a lot of very nice planking there.   you've done a super job.   finger's are crossed for the admiral.......I hope there's a solution 

[Erik W]

Mark,

 

I just stumbled onto your build log.  Impressive!!  The Hahn building method intrigues me.  I'll be following your progress.

 

Erik

[JohnE]

Hi Mark. My thoughts and prayers for Janet.

 

French planking is a system unto itself. It has ‘rules’. Often these are honored in the breach in many cases, and they change once one gets into a ‘ship’, as opposed to a ‘frigate’ or ‘corvette’.

 

Drawings by modelers are very nice, but often don’t capture the essence of le système de bordages. This is not a criticism, because you are far beyond that. It’s just an observation for, perhaps, “next time”.

 

The French counted strakes from the garboard to the wale. They had a rule for ‘thinning’. In my model of a frigate, it’s about 30+ strakes, top to bottom, and thinning is from 30 to about 22.

 

Wales are thick and 12” on the profile. There may be a second ‘wale’ strake below the first, having a ‘thick’ strake there between. The ‘thick’ strake might be 12” or 8” (yard dog choice, but mostly wale size). Below the bottom ‘wale’ strake, each successive plank is shaved down, on the bottom, by ¼ pouce, until it gets to the nominal hull plank thickness (hopefully in region of the nominal hull strake).

 

That’s how the French did it.

 

This is just a fyi kinda thing. Don’t expect you will be tweaking and wouldn’t want you to. We’re talking scale millimeters here and it just don’t matter.

 

John

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the "likes" and the comments. 

 

6 planks left to go... Hopefully, life will let up and let me get them done this week.

 

Hi John,

 

Yeah.. the more I got into the planking, the more I learned.  Maybe next time although the planking on this one has been a bit of a snot,  so to speak.  I back up the Hahn plans with the NMM and the Belle Poule monograph.  I'm not spot on... maybe close, I hope.  After sanding and gap filling it should look pretty good, but as always.. it's a case of "we'll see".   The planking does go from "thick to thin" with the only "break" being the top wale does stand proud at its upper edge per the drawings.  But even the narrowing of the width of each strake as it goes down the side has been problematic due to the small dimension a model. 

 

Still on the learning curve...  but the next model will be glorious! 

[dgbot]

I remember at Manitowoc one year a guy brought in a French frigate with a great looking hull that confounded me a bit.  I struck up a conversation with him and he said that he followed French practice and rules for both planking and framing and showed the manuscripts that he used for reference.  I was used to American and English practice.  It was really different.  And the judges later told me that was a good point for his knowledge and skill.  I admire your tenacity and skill in your planking you are doing a fantastic job.

David B

[Trussben]

Hope you get some workshop time Mark to finish those strokes off, I'm still in workshop building mode but hope to have a small workspace ready by the new year so I can get back to Pegasus.

 

Best wishes to the Admiral.

 

Ben

[mtaylor]

Time to splice the main brace, methinks.   Or maybe just a happy dance...

 

Major milestone today... external hull planking (except for the transom is finished.   Still needs a serious sanding and some gap filling which I'll start on after a bit of cleanup in shop.

 

 

Next job (after the sanding is fitting the stern post, fashion pieces and doing the transom..  planking, windows, carvings, and the molding strips.

 

Time to splice the main brace, methinks.    Or maybe just a happy dance...

[mtaylor]

While I'm updating the log...  a couple of side projects ongoing.  I've not done much with the longboat other than some sanding to the mold. 

 

I did redo the laser cut out for the stern carving in Euro Boxwood and a more appropriate thickness after a discussion the other sub-forum.  This one does look better in my opinion and won't be removing so much wood.

 

 

Another one while waiting for glue to dry on the planks was to prepare the drawings for guns and carriages.  I made two dummy guns to check the height once the deck is in and planked and couple of pieces for checking the guns after I turn them.   I'm puzzling over a duplicator for the lathe.  It'll have to self-made as there's nothing commercial that will work on mine.

 

[Cabbie]

Yee Haa !!!!   Mark congrats, That is a big achievement.

Just sit back for a moment to admire, and feel good about it.

Cheers Chris

[toms10]

     Definitely the happy dance is in order after reaching a project milestone.  Especially when it comes out that good.  

[GLakie]

Congrats on hitting this milestone Mark.  I know you've been waiting patiently for the (hull-planking) finish-line.    

[Moonbug]

Nice Mark!

[BANYAN]

A major milestone desreves a major celebration - just don't use any powertools until the hangover is gone Well done mate, looks good.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Omega1234]

Hey Mark

 

Woohoo!!!  Nice job and what a great milestone to achieve.

 

Happy Dances all around!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[gjdale]

Congratulations on achieving such a major milestone Mark! Definitely time for the happy dance. Then down tools while you do some serious celebrating with the adult beverage of your choice. No more power tools until the room stops spinning okay?!!!

[Jparsley]

Mark it looks great congrats

[captgino]

Nicely done!!

Congratulations in reaching this milestone.

[Jim Lad]

A major milestone indeed, Mark.  Great stuff!

 

John

[michael mott]

Mark congratulations on completion of this step only ....... more to go, you must be pleased! your step to start over seems like it was years ago now and was well worth the decision.

 

Michael

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the likes and the comments...  no hangovers but then, I haven't raised by glass yet.  Later tonight.

 

Michael,

That was the best decision I could have made.  Thanks for reminding me.

 

 

And thanks to the members of this forum for the help and encouragement.  I've learned a few lessons on this part of the trip.    Ok.. many lessons, not a few.

[mobbsie]

Well done Mark on a great achievement, the hull looks fantastic even without sanding.

Lessens well learned and implemented mate.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

 

 

Major milestone today... external hull planking (except for the transom is finished.   Still needs a serious sanding and some gap filling which I'll start on after a bit of cleanup in shop.

 

 

G'day Mark

I think I might need new glasses!  I can't see anywhere you will need any filler!

Great job and congratulations on this mild stone. My feet are dancing for you over here in Oz.

All the best mate.

Havagooday

Greg

[mtaylor]

Greg,

At stand off distance... maybe 5000 miles... yep... no filling needed.   :D  

 

It does need some serious sanding and filling with sawdust and poly.

[Remcohe]

Congratulations Mark, that's a serious milestone.

Regarding the duplicator, take a good look at the commercial ones and you're probably able to make one of your own. I did once a long time ago, but never really tested it, so I can't tell mine works. If al fails you may opt to procure a set of guns.

 

Remco

[Remcohe]

Congratulations Mark, that's a serious milestone.

Regarding the duplicator, take a good look at the commercial ones and you're probably able to make one of your own. I did once a long time ago, but never really tested it, so I can't tell mine works. If al fails you may opt to procure a set of guns.

 

Remco

[CaptainSteve]

Le hull ... she looks, 'ow you say, Magnifique !!

[NenadM]

Very very very nice !!!! I like it !

[NMBROOK]

Congrats Mark on a job well done It will not be overly long before you can release her from the building jig

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel