mobbsie Posted November 21, 2015 Share #1321 Posted November 21, 2015 Hi Mark, Whichever way you look at your hull planking mate there's an awful lot of work there, it's no wonder you been a while on it, none of that time has been wasted. She's looking real good. Whilst looking after Janet mate and I sincerely hope her pain is under control please don't forget to look after yourself. Be Good mobbsie mtaylor, Piet, Canute and 10 others 13 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipmodel Posted November 21, 2015 Share #1322 Posted November 21, 2015 Hi Mark - That planking is coming along very nicely, and that is not easy with the odd shape of French hulls from that period. Well done Dan mtaylor, Jack12477, Canute and 6 others 9 Quote Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 26, 2015 Share #1323 Posted November 26, 2015 Mobbsie coined it pretty good.........there's a lot of very nice planking there. you've done a super job. finger's are crossed for the admiral.......I hope there's a solution Landlocked123, CaptainSteve, WackoWolf and 7 others 10 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted December 10, 2015 Share #1324 Posted December 10, 2015 Mark, I just stumbled onto your build log. Impressive!! The Hahn building method intrigues me. I'll be following your progress. Erik Mike Y, Piet, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE Posted December 10, 2015 Share #1325 Posted December 10, 2015 Hi Mark. My thoughts and prayers for Janet. French planking is a system unto itself. It has ‘rules’. Often these are honored in the breach in many cases, and they change once one gets into a ‘ship’, as opposed to a ‘frigate’ or ‘corvette’. Drawings by modelers are very nice, but often don’t capture the essence of le système de bordages. This is not a criticism, because you are far beyond that. It’s just an observation for, perhaps, “next time”. The French counted strakes from the garboard to the wale. They had a rule for ‘thinning’. In my model of a frigate, it’s about 30+ strakes, top to bottom, and thinning is from 30 to about 22. Wales are thick and 12” on the profile. There may be a second ‘wale’ strake below the first, having a ‘thick’ strake there between. The ‘thick’ strake might be 12” or 8” (yard dog choice, but mostly wale size). Below the bottom ‘wale’ strake, each successive plank is shaved down, on the bottom, by ¼ pouce, until it gets to the nominal hull plank thickness (hopefully in region of the nominal hull strake). That’s how the French did it. This is just a fyi kinda thing. Don’t expect you will be tweaking and wouldn’t want you to. We’re talking scale millimeters here and it just don’t matter. John Omega1234, Piet, avsjerome2003 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share #1326 Posted December 10, 2015 Thanks for the "likes" and the comments. 6 planks left to go... Hopefully, life will let up and let me get them done this week. Hi John, Yeah.. the more I got into the planking, the more I learned. Maybe next time although the planking on this one has been a bit of a snot, so to speak. I back up the Hahn plans with the NMM and the Belle Poule monograph. I'm not spot on... maybe close, I hope. After sanding and gap filling it should look pretty good, but as always.. it's a case of "we'll see". The planking does go from "thick to thin" with the only "break" being the top wale does stand proud at its upper edge per the drawings. But even the narrowing of the width of each strake as it goes down the side has been problematic due to the small dimension a model. Still on the learning curve... but the next model will be glorious! cog, Piet, Omega1234 and 9 others 12 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted December 10, 2015 Share #1327 Posted December 10, 2015 I remember at Manitowoc one year a guy brought in a French frigate with a great looking hull that confounded me a bit. I struck up a conversation with him and he said that he followed French practice and rules for both planking and framing and showed the manuscripts that he used for reference. I was used to American and English practice. It was really different. And the judges later told me that was a good point for his knowledge and skill. I admire your tenacity and skill in your planking you are doing a fantastic job. David B Piet, GLakie, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted December 10, 2015 Share #1328 Posted December 10, 2015 Hope you get some workshop time Mark to finish those strokes off, I'm still in workshop building mode but hope to have a small workspace ready by the new year so I can get back to Pegasus. Best wishes to the Admiral. Ben CaptainSteve, Omega1234, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share #1329 Posted December 13, 2015 Time to splice the main brace, methinks. Or maybe just a happy dance... Major milestone today... external hull planking (except for the transom is finished. Still needs a serious sanding and some gap filling which I'll start on after a bit of cleanup in shop. Next job (after the sanding is fitting the stern post, fashion pieces and doing the transom.. planking, windows, carvings, and the molding strips. Time to splice the main brace, methinks. Or maybe just a happy dance... hexnut, tlevine, Landlocked123 and 62 others 65 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share #1330 Posted December 13, 2015 While I'm updating the log... a couple of side projects ongoing. I've not done much with the longboat other than some sanding to the mold. I did redo the laser cut out for the stern carving in Euro Boxwood and a more appropriate thickness after a discussion the other sub-forum. This one does look better in my opinion and won't be removing so much wood. Another one while waiting for glue to dry on the planks was to prepare the drawings for guns and carriages. I made two dummy guns to check the height once the deck is in and planked and couple of pieces for checking the guns after I turn them. I'm puzzling over a duplicator for the lathe. It'll have to self-made as there's nothing commercial that will work on mine. BANYAN, Bobstrake, gjdale and 31 others 34 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1331 Posted December 13, 2015 Yee Haa !!!! Mark congrats, That is a big achievement. Just sit back for a moment to admire, and feel good about it. Cheers Chris Jack12477, Canute, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms10 Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1332 Posted December 13, 2015 Definitely the happy dance is in order after reaching a project milestone. Especially when it comes out that good. Canute, GLakie, WackoWolf and 6 others 9 Quote Attitude is the difference between ordeal and adventure. Finished: Charles W. Morgan, scratch 1:96 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30666-charles-w-morgan-1841-scratch-196-pob-by-toms10 Finished: HMS Leopard, scratch 1:85 https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2403-hms-leopard-scale-185 Finished: Constellation AL Kit, scale - 1:85 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/1383-constellation-al-185-by-tom-szabo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1333 Posted December 13, 2015 Congrats on hitting this milestone Mark. I know you've been waiting patiently for the (hull-planking) finish-line. CaptainSteve, Omega1234, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1334 Posted December 13, 2015 Nice Mark! Jack12477, Piet, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1335 Posted December 13, 2015 A major milestone desreves a major celebration - just don't use any powertools until the hangover is gone Well done mate, looks good. cheers Pat Jack12477, janos, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1336 Posted December 13, 2015 Hey Mark Woohoo!!! Nice job and what a great milestone to achieve. Happy Dances all around! Cheers Patrick mtaylor, Jack12477, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1337 Posted December 13, 2015 Congratulations on achieving such a major milestone Mark! Definitely time for the happy dance. Then down tools while you do some serious celebrating with the adult beverage of your choice. No more power tools until the room stops spinning okay?!!! Jack12477, avsjerome2003, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1338 Posted December 13, 2015 Mark it looks great congrats GLakie, Piet, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captgino Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1339 Posted December 13, 2015 Nicely done!! Congratulations in reaching this milestone. GLakie, Omega1234, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Jean-Philippe (JP) Current build: Syren , HMS Victory Cross Section, Essex Please visit and subscribe to my YouTube Channel On Hold: Rattlesnake (Scratch built) Completed: Armed Virginia Sloop, Viking ship, The Flyer, Pilot Boat, Krabbenkutter, Marie-Jeanne, Sloup, The Smasher, Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1340 Posted December 13, 2015 A major milestone indeed, Mark. Great stuff! John mtaylor, Piet, wyz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1341 Posted December 13, 2015 Mark congratulations on completion of this step only ....... more to go, you must be pleased! your step to start over seems like it was years ago now and was well worth the decision. Michael Canute, mtaylor, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share #1342 Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks for the likes and the comments... no hangovers but then, I haven't raised by glass yet. Later tonight. Michael, That was the best decision I could have made. Thanks for reminding me. And thanks to the members of this forum for the help and encouragement. I've learned a few lessons on this part of the trip. Ok.. many lessons, not a few. cog, Cabbie, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1343 Posted December 13, 2015 Well done Mark on a great achievement, the hull looks fantastic even without sanding. Lessens well learned and implemented mate. Be Good mobbsie Omega1234, Piet, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1344 Posted December 13, 2015 Major milestone today... external hull planking (except for the transom is finished. Still needs a serious sanding and some gap filling which I'll start on after a bit of cleanup in shop. G'day Mark I think I might need new glasses! I can't see anywhere you will need any filler! Great job and congratulations on this mild stone. My feet are dancing for you over here in Oz. All the best mate. Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share #1345 Posted December 13, 2015 Greg, At stand off distance... maybe 5000 miles... yep... no filling needed. :D It does need some serious sanding and filling with sawdust and poly. Canute, Omega1234, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1346 Posted December 13, 2015 Congratulations Mark, that's a serious milestone. Regarding the duplicator, take a good look at the commercial ones and you're probably able to make one of your own. I did once a long time ago, but never really tested it, so I can't tell mine works. If al fails you may opt to procure a set of guns. Remco Piet, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1347 Posted December 13, 2015 Congratulations Mark, that's a serious milestone. Regarding the duplicator, take a good look at the commercial ones and you're probably able to make one of your own. I did once a long time ago, but never really tested it, so I can't tell mine works. If al fails you may opt to procure a set of guns. Remco Piet, GLakie, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1348 Posted December 13, 2015 Le hull ... she looks, 'ow you say, Magnifique !! avsjerome2003, Omega1234, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1349 Posted December 13, 2015 Very very very nice !!!! I like it ! Canute, GLakie, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted December 13, 2015 Share #1350 Posted December 13, 2015 Congrats Mark on a job well done It will not be overly long before you can release her from the building jig Kind Regards Nigel Canute, Piet, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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