tlee01 Posted December 2, 2021 Share #1351 Posted December 2, 2021 I am with Glenn, maybe in 3 or 4 years I will have the skill for this, but I look forward to it. Hopefully, I am going to be trying the Cheerful in the next year so, but my skill level is still lacking so a few more intermediate skill level boats and I should be there. Gary FrankWouts and VTHokiEE 2 Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted December 2, 2021 Share #1352 Posted December 2, 2021 Since building the Triton cross section, it would be something I would definitely be interested in! FrankWouts and VTHokiEE 2 Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted December 2, 2021 Share #1353 Posted December 2, 2021 Same! I'm very interested in a high quality POF kit 😁 VTHokiEE and FrankWouts 2 Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted December 2, 2021 Share #1354 Posted December 2, 2021 I'm in on the POF build as soon as the Winnie is completed. I would probably go with boxwood. Don't want to burn up the laser which means I would have to scratch the framing. I'm looking forward to that. Exciting stuff ahead! Mike VTHokiEE and FrankWouts 2 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1355 Posted December 3, 2021 Chuck, I’m in for the POF project. I’m sure it will be challenging, but much easier as a group project. It’s probably my best shot at finishing a fully framed model. FrankWouts 1 Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1356 Posted December 3, 2021 Yes I'm all in! VTHokiEE and FrankWouts 2 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1357 Posted December 3, 2021 Are we talking scratch POF or kit? VTHokiEE and FrankWouts 2 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Murphy Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1358 Posted December 3, 2021 A POF kit would be great for the modeling community. Your models teach so much. Just reading what you do are some of the best lessons out there. You and Tom Laurie are some of the best teachers out there. Tim Murphy FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1359 Posted December 3, 2021 A POF-kit from Syren is a wonderfull perspective!! I am thinking of these pictures you posted from the two Thomas-Burroughs models, Winchelsea and the big one, half open, with a view into the framework, half planked on the other side. That would be beautiful. FrankWouts, VTHokiEE and Jack H 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1360 Posted December 3, 2021 My next model will be a POF model. It would be wonderful to have some good choices! But first I need to get my Syren finished 😉 Thomas Jack12477, FrankWouts, JpR62 and 2 others 5 Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share #1361 Posted December 3, 2021 Thats good news. But alas the Winnie must be completed first. But we are getting really close. it wont be a huge two or 3 decker. It will be a smaller model fully rigged. It will be a great first time exercise in framing. Nothing to terribly difficult. I am hoping Jack will be able to do all carvings as well. Chuck Jim Rogers, Edwardkenway, JpR62 and 11 others 14 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1362 Posted December 3, 2021 But you will hopefully develope the model in 1/4 scale? FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share #1363 Posted December 3, 2021 Yes absolutely 1/4” Scale. Matt D, Jim Rogers, Stuntflyer and 6 others 9 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JpR62 Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1364 Posted December 3, 2021 What great news! A 1/4 scale POF model of a reasonably sized ship and what's more by one of the most innovative designers. I think there are many of us waiting for this moment! I'm getting ready for some great hours in my future retirement 😄 FrankWouts, Ryland Craze, VTHokiEE and 2 others 5 Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : Santa Maria boat - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted December 3, 2021 Share #1365 Posted December 3, 2021 Yes I would also be interested in a POF kit. Probably the only way I would tackle such a project. FrankWouts and VTHokiEE 2 - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgiantman2 Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1366 Posted December 4, 2021 Do you have any specific ships in mind, like a 1:48 scale Niagara or a Schooner like Pilgrim Pride? The Constitution is popular but she is very complex even in smaller scales. There is the Confederacy model that seems to be doing well, I hear that one is also complex. Or would you go for something more simple like a Lobster Smack model that has more details? Whatever decision is made, I look forward to reading more about this new endeavor. VTHokiEE, FrankWouts and Hubac's Historian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share #1367 Posted December 4, 2021 Currently under consideration....fully rigged. Planked above the wales with frames exposed below. KentM, bdgiantman2, GuntherMT and 25 others 21 1 6 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1368 Posted December 4, 2021 What is the name of this one? It is a beautiful model and not too big fully rigged. And it is just the right size for a POF challenge. hollowneck and FrankWouts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share #1369 Posted December 4, 2021 This is the Speedwell. The model on the bottom is Greg Herbert's model. There is a lot of info available mainly because David Antscherl and Greg have already documented it in their two book series. In addition there are plenty of original drafts and the Contemporary model. Making a kit with laser cut pieces and CNC carvings is a logical next step in my opinion. I cant think of a better suited "learning" subject for a POF model. Mainly because of its size and decorative appearance. Plus the not to burdensome number of guns and two masted rig. I figured why not do this one before it gets pirated so a legit version could be made available of it. See here for Greg's beautiful scratch -built version. and here I am hoping because of the support and available resources that there will be a great deal of interest in such a project. Especially if many have the books but not the tools or experience or confidence to build it entirely from scratch. Not to gunk up this build log too much but please feel free let me know if this is a subject that could be of interest. JeffT, KenW, hollowneck and 16 others 18 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1370 Posted December 4, 2021 This will make a great post Winnie subject! Looking forward to seeing this develop further! Seventynet, FrankWouts and VTHokiEE 3 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1371 Posted December 4, 2021 Intriguing, a two masted Sloop, pre 1750 by the double wales, 12 guns, I'd take a punt at Speedwell. B.E. hollowneck, FrankWouts, Moonbug and 2 others 5 Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1372 Posted December 4, 2021 I chose to model her for a couple of reasons. First, she would fit into the last available space in my study (fully rigged). Second, she's a relatively easy rig when compared to a three masted ship. But most importantly her carvings and profile make for a beautiful model. I believe that Chuck will make this kit both accessible for first time POF modelers and a beautiful representation of the NMM model. WalrusGuy, Trussben, Moonbug and 10 others 13 GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1373 Posted December 4, 2021 I’m certainly interested if you go ahead with this project in POF @ 1:48, with a full rig. MEDDO, FrankWouts and Ryland Craze 3 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted December 4, 2021 Share #1374 Posted December 4, 2021 Sure, after I’m done with the Winnie I just started and hope to keep my attention on to completion FrankWouts 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: HMS Winchelsea Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share #1375 Posted December 4, 2021 Back to the Winnie...prep for Binnacle rafine, Stuntflyer, G.L. and 13 others 16 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share #1376 Posted December 5, 2021 Binnacle test on the model. This was fun to build. I have plenty of construction photos which I will soon upload as well. A big Thank You to David Antscherl who was kind enough to paint the friezes for the binnacle. More to follow soon. But breaking for dinner now. G.L., Edwardkenway, Stuntflyer and 31 others 31 3 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted December 5, 2021 Share #1377 Posted December 5, 2021 Great choice! FrankWouts 1 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted December 5, 2021 Share #1378 Posted December 5, 2021 I already have the Speedwell book and plans and is on my to do so I'm very interested. Binnacle looks great too! FrankWouts, JeffT and Ryland Craze 3 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted December 5, 2021 Share #1379 Posted December 5, 2021 The Speedwell is an excellent subject, IMO, and a really good melding of draftsmanship and kit design. I wanted my first POF build to be of a smaller subject, and this really fits the bill. I am excited about this! FrankWouts 1 We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted December 5, 2021 Share #1380 Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) im sure almost everyone finishing Winnie will have hard time to resist Speedwell. in my opinion is just a perfect in size snd ornamental beauty kind of cross for those skipping and little regretting not trying english cutter or missing its lovely rigging - smaller than winnie, which is for instance without rig understandably. that would be years to finish planking above wales will satisfy both worlds. look of finished ship with full hint of frames below . i clap hands absolutely. Edited December 5, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa add FrankWouts and Jack12477 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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